At this early point in the universal war, probably only Jadis (inherited) and gog-agog have keys. It’s unknown when the others got their keys and Solomon is probably a contemporary.
Ten bucks says that in the next 3 pages Maya will ask why all the killing and Jaggy-Yaun will give Maya her catch phrase and ask ” What do you know about death?*
Walking up to Jaggy is like daring to kiss a tiger. Other than the flashback left them alive, the best they can hope for is a severe mauling.
While reading comments I may of had an epiphany. Being that Jagannoth knows his purpose but can not remember where he came from he may be the embodiment of War. As long as there is war he will exist. like death or he really has no beginning and that he has a battle mode? he unleashed with infinite arms, he reminds me very much of a angel type being.
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She would do this too…. But I’d more expect something like
“I am developing phenomenal cosmic power and enlightenment from home! I never imagined that it was honest-to-goodness yet my closest companion is developing new links for emissaries by eating bugs, that was truly astounding for me! 0_0 Everyone must try this by eating this bug!”
Jantris was a demiurge (“storm-crowned”) and possibly invented the dead men method of training/indoctrination, since he seems less “dead” than his followers (at least, I can’t imagine Jagganoth wearing jewels or smoking a pipe).
I don’t know that that’ll do you much good, as fighting Jagg in even a remotely effective manner seems to involve punching him through several different universes
With what, your goddamn eyeballs? Or is he large enough to have a detectable gravity well? My mans is yoked you don’t need any special sword sense to appreciate his gains
When I wake up, well I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man who slaughters all of you
When I go out, yeah I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man who defenestrates you
When I get drunk, well I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man drinks your blood too
And when I’m cutting, hey I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man who cuts the gods in two
Suggest such filth again, and I shall tear thy guts clean from thy body and feed them to you with a lemon garnish.
If you wish to possess a depiction of the full glory of the Red God in his youth, ask or pay Abaddon for a textless version, or put in the time and effort to create/edit one yourself.
Besides, even ignoring the questionable ethics of training an AI with art you don’t own, it probably wouldn’t the purpose anyway. Everything I’ve seen of AI art replication software paints a picture of a very dumb machine mashing together a set of images with no capacity for nuance or understanding anything out of specific parameters. From what I understand of AI art, the only way to get an exact copy of this page sans text from an AI (and not have it fuck up the hands or hair or background or whatever) is to literally just give it a copy that you edited the text boxes out of.
AI art isn’t a technique or algorithm, it’s a wide array of technologies. AI inpainting is a pretty straightforward technique. Scrubbing exactly the text boxes will get you no changes to anything but the text boxes.
The AI is also already trained. You don’t train an inpainting bot with the input you’re planning to use. Presenting it with this page won’t change it in any way, and inpainting bots certainly don’t produce art on their own. They only fill in existing art based on the presented piece’s existing style, that’s in the name.
Overall, that was an unnecessarily violent reaction.
um yeah. read the tos. on these things. and regardless to suggest using ai to doctor artwork, especially on the work of an artist as devoted as abbadon, is incredibly disrespectful
Mate I have reservations about AI art too but infilling has been around for years and ain’t the same. It’s an editing feature in photoshop. Okay Chillax.
It’s no different to fan art. The computer breaks down the image and, through multiple images and multiple noise passes, generates patterns attached to an array of tags. If it’s unethical then so is looking at any artist before putting pen or brush to paper.
perhaps it would be advisable to try emailing abbadon using the mailto link that is literally right there at the top of every page on this website instead? there’s no need to disrespect the work when a line of communication with the creator is available
I note how Maya has her sword drawn already, though pointing down, while Incubus has his hand on the hilt, ready to draw. I don’t know if it’s just a difference of fighting styles or just that one is more cautious than the other.
Incubus seems to be modeled more on a samurai and, between the way he’s holding his sword and his stance, he might practice some form of iaijutsu. So, I don’t think he’s any less ready than Maya.
I’m just curious about the logistics of this. Where is he finding five thousand new guys to kill every day? Are people still sending armies after him? Does he need to empty out cities and just carry all the corpses back? Does he have a giant wheelbarrow?
He is a killing them and stepping for the killing blow until they stop coming, the mountain is just an eternal wheels of killing.
Doing this infinitely will create the stairs to heavens but all below will become a red hell.
To live more than all mortals only takes some infinites of killing, but to exist beyound itrself one only needs someone to outlive him.
When faced with the reality that everything decays one can only try and decays the fucks it gives to reality and then you are free to be a short damned happy hipocrite, you can do so by complete ignorance or supreme wisdom.
Given the alt-text, I had a thought, if he dreams of nothing greater, then why did he become a demiurge? We know how what his thoughts were, but did he recognize the trap of the wheel before he was a demiurge?
Probably just swatted a gloving little gnat who was being a little bit more annoying than usual, and later realized he’s got a glovy thing in his brow which somehow makes him marginally stronger.
It’s a reasonable guess that he started with Jantris’ key. Possibly, he took it because Jantris asked it of him (dying request if Jantris was still mortal). Having one key made him a target for other demiurges, so he killed them and took their keys for tidiness. Eventually, he was too big to be left out of the 7-part pact but was never really into it.
Becoming a demigod by accident seems to be a recurring theme.
Possibly, or he challenged Jantris for leadership and beat him and gained it that way, but, that would imply wanting something bigger, glory or something.
“average person kills 3 people a year” factoid actualy (sic) just statistical error. average person kills 0 people per year. Yaun Ten Jantris, Lion of the Dead Men, who no longer remembers the face of his mother & kills over 5,000 people each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
I think Mottom explained it best. It seems less like Jagganoth enjoys violence and more like he’s just physically incapable of existing in a state of not-violent.
Even the brittle peace brought by the Pact of the Seven-Part World felt wholly alien and wrong on a visceral level to the God-Eater, and while he tells himself his apocalyptic rampage is motivated by the promise of a better world, deep down it’s likely just a desire to return to the only life that feels right to him: a endless bloody struggle.
Quite possible that this is at least part of his motivation, or at the very least one reason Metatron chose him. It probably wasn’t too hard to convince him to start universal war all over again.
Also, to paraphrase his words during the battle. “the lord’s hand cannot grasp anything but a hilt. He must become violence itself.”
I dunno.
Instead of the endless cycle of wiping the world – which he confusingly relays about his endless siege on Metatron (like the Matrix’s the architect) – I think his story can be reduced down to a Rick and Morty quote:
“Oh boy; here I go killing again!” except with a really pious and stoic demeanor.
210 Seeking Emerald Enlightenment Among The Roots And Reeds
It’s weird seeing Jag look somewhat like an actual person instead of an Ork Warboss that decided to paint himself red.
I wonder if he eventually succumbed to male pattern baldness or he just realised having hair that long while fighting in The War To End All Wars was just asking for someone to start pulling it in the middle of a fight.
Seems like in a lot of things once some stage of “enlightenment” (for want of a better word) is achieved, the head is shorn; the ancient master archetype goes from a full head of hair in late middle-age to a complete baldness of a monastic variety (i.e., male pattern baldness is unlikely, at least can’t account for EVERY fictional instance). Same with Solomon; a clean, streamlined sort of look embodying “my mind and body are pure and I am at my peak”? Seems Solomon’s hair is back in a big way per the title-page, which, per the above, probably signifies his spiritual disarray and “wildness” after the whole Rayuba thing.
Presumably this is prior to him getting the angel feathers, so while he’s admittedly a beefy dude, shouldn’t all those spears and arrows and swords be having some effect?
My impression is that it’s a bit similar to the (late) Great Dragon, Mammon’s, (former) problem: he’s just too damn BIG, so ordinary spears and arrows and swords just get deep enough into his flesh to have much of an effect. Extraordinary weapons, on the other hand, could probably still affect him quite deeply at this stage of his life. But then the angel feathers removed even that possibility.
I mean, they probably hurt, and he probably would make an effort to avoid unnecessary wounds, but I imagine to him this is very much like killing a swarm of mosquitos. You’re gonna end up with some bug bites, but you’re not exactly worried about dying from them.
No key in sight…
At this early point in the universal war, probably only Jadis (inherited) and gog-agog have keys. It’s unknown when the others got their keys and Solomon is probably a contemporary.
Solomon is like 500 years, the only way he’s a contemporary is if Maya also don’t age normally, since she’s 27 there and 40 to 50 today
Ten bucks says that in the next 3 pages Maya will ask why all the killing and Jaggy-Yaun will give Maya her catch phrase and ask ” What do you know about death?*
Walking up to Jaggy is like daring to kiss a tiger. Other than the flashback left them alive, the best they can hope for is a severe mauling.
Ooh. I don’t know if you’re right, but it’s a really interesting idea.
While reading comments I may of had an epiphany. Being that Jagannoth knows his purpose but can not remember where he came from he may be the embodiment of War. As long as there is war he will exist. like death or he really has no beginning and that he has a battle mode? he unleashed with infinite arms, he reminds me very much of a angel type being.
Like John Carter of Mars except with less princesses and more death.
i believe the 7 are embodiments of the deadly sins
jag – wrath
jadis – sloth
dave – pride
gog – gluttony
inky – lust
mottom – envy
mammon – greed
oh shit this fits perfectly, not a bit forced, I bet this was made on purpose
Who is this disciple of Bucks and how they acquired knowledge of things to come?
Damn your smooth. It took me 15 minutes to figure out your quip.
Everyone just liv…ing.. in the moment
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spam. someone got past the filter
filter is unobservant
feels weird to see that kind of comment on the KSBD comment section X33
its gog agog
She would do this too…. But I’d more expect something like
“I am developing phenomenal cosmic power and enlightenment from home! I never imagined that it was honest-to-goodness yet my closest companion is developing new links for emissaries by eating bugs, that was truly astounding for me! 0_0 Everyone must try this by eating this bug!”
Head back to the earlier chapters. Their comments sections are completely infested with spambots, including the NSFW ones.
I could fix him
i could make him worse
Death wouldn’t make him worse.
His left eye hasn’t been plucked out yet, it seems. Maybe start there?
well *I* could hold him like this!
Maya *Chuckles* I’m in danger
Men will literally kill five thousand men a day, on average, instead of getting therapy
Haha, nice.
Yaun was Jag masters wasn’t he?
Jagganoth’s name in the Hyena Men was Yaun.
I believe Yaun is the original name of Jagganoth.
No, Yaun is Jaganoth’s original name, his master is called Jantris
Not so much master in the master-servant sense than leader of the mercenary band Yaun got conscripted into and Yauns mentor.
Jantris was a demiurge (“storm-crowned”) and possibly invented the dead men method of training/indoctrination, since he seems less “dead” than his followers (at least, I can’t imagine Jagganoth wearing jewels or smoking a pipe).
Yaun-ten-Jantris is Jagganoth. I believe this means his master was named Jantris; compare Maya-ten-Meti and Meti-ten-Ryo and Ryo-ten-Ryam.
A man who forgets breadwarmth is no longer mortal. He is a feral animal and must be put down.
Feel free to get on that; I’ll be standing three or four universes over.
You underestimate the power of bread? BREAD? Even this brooding death creature knows the name of “BREAD.”
We have yet to see the fell warrior “Undefeated of the Yeast”.
I don’t know that that’ll do you much good, as fighting Jagg in even a remotely effective manner seems to involve punching him through several different universes
That is not REMOTELY far enough away, if the fight between Solomon and Yaun is any indication.
To fall for such a thing. A scrap of bread…
“All this for a loaf of bread?”
“You’re only in trouble if you get caught.”
“GOTCHA!”
“I’m in trouble!”
And I’ve killed 5000 men
And I’ll kill 5000 more
Just to be da man who killed 10000 men
To break a wheel and kill a god
Feral animals aren’t mortal?
Feral animals won’t be mortal for long. They’re meant to be served on the bread.
Go forth Knight of the Loaf! Strike him down!
Look at this, just a man living in the moment. Beautiful.
no cellphone in sight
How very Zod of Yuan, I wonder who this very tall and violent man will be in the future. :V :V
“We could both sense the immensity of this man”
With what, your goddamn eyeballs? Or is he large enough to have a detectable gravity well? My mans is yoked you don’t need any special sword sense to appreciate his gains
DBZ power level sense maybe?
It’s over 5000!
obviously it refers to his lil’ jag
“I knew immediately that he would easily split me in two”
“With his blade, right?”
“…”
“With his blade, right?”
Royalty is a continuous thrusting motion.
If y’all restart jaggahog discourse in these comments again, I will devote the remainder of my years to learning how to set you on fire with my mind
Joke’s on you, fireplay is one of my many kinks.
Embrace the hog.
I can teach you. You must first imagine them to be tinder. Then kindling. Then branches. Then a log.
Focus on that log. *Focus* on the big, brown, throbbing log.
Just to be the man who kills ten thousand men to fall down at your door
That explains Mr. Nimbus.
And I-iiii have killed 5 thousand men
And I-iiii will kill 5 thousand more
Just to be the man who killed ten thousand men
To fall down at your swords
DA DA-DA DA
When I wake up, well I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man who slaughters all of you
When I go out, yeah I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man who defenestrates you
When I get drunk, well I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man drinks your blood too
And when I’m cutting, hey I know I’m gonna be,
I’m gonna be the man who cuts the gods in two
Glad I’m not the only one who immediately went there
I NEED a textless of version of this page, or at least the first panel.
try AI inpainting?
Suggest such filth again, and I shall tear thy guts clean from thy body and feed them to you with a lemon garnish.
If you wish to possess a depiction of the full glory of the Red God in his youth, ask or pay Abaddon for a textless version, or put in the time and effort to create/edit one yourself.
Besides, even ignoring the questionable ethics of training an AI with art you don’t own, it probably wouldn’t the purpose anyway. Everything I’ve seen of AI art replication software paints a picture of a very dumb machine mashing together a set of images with no capacity for nuance or understanding anything out of specific parameters. From what I understand of AI art, the only way to get an exact copy of this page sans text from an AI (and not have it fuck up the hands or hair or background or whatever) is to literally just give it a copy that you edited the text boxes out of.
AI art isn’t a technique or algorithm, it’s a wide array of technologies. AI inpainting is a pretty straightforward technique. Scrubbing exactly the text boxes will get you no changes to anything but the text boxes.
The AI is also already trained. You don’t train an inpainting bot with the input you’re planning to use. Presenting it with this page won’t change it in any way, and inpainting bots certainly don’t produce art on their own. They only fill in existing art based on the presented piece’s existing style, that’s in the name.
Overall, that was an unnecessarily violent reaction.
“You don’t train an inpainting bot with the input you’re planning to use.”
Sorry, wrong. ALL the popular bots ingest the imagens you present them, and use them later.
Uh no.
um yeah. read the tos. on these things. and regardless to suggest using ai to doctor artwork, especially on the work of an artist as devoted as abbadon, is incredibly disrespectful
Mate I have reservations about AI art too but infilling has been around for years and ain’t the same. It’s an editing feature in photoshop. Okay Chillax.
It’s no different to fan art. The computer breaks down the image and, through multiple images and multiple noise passes, generates patterns attached to an array of tags. If it’s unethical then so is looking at any artist before putting pen or brush to paper.
Gundgram is Right and should say it
perhaps it would be advisable to try emailing abbadon using the mailto link that is literally right there at the top of every page on this website instead? there’s no need to disrespect the work when a line of communication with the creator is available
I note how Maya has her sword drawn already, though pointing down, while Incubus has his hand on the hilt, ready to draw. I don’t know if it’s just a difference of fighting styles or just that one is more cautious than the other.
Incubus seems to be modeled more on a samurai and, between the way he’s holding his sword and his stance, he might practice some form of iaijutsu. So, I don’t think he’s any less ready than Maya.
I’m just curious about the logistics of this. Where is he finding five thousand new guys to kill every day? Are people still sending armies after him? Does he need to empty out cities and just carry all the corpses back? Does he have a giant wheelbarrow?
He’s sieging a garrison of 20,000.
Seems rhetorical, Jagganoth is a bit of a poet in the way he talks.
Could also be idiot commanders sending armies after him.
And who is piling the bodies into mounds ?
He is a killing them and stepping for the killing blow until they stop coming, the mountain is just an eternal wheels of killing.
Doing this infinitely will create the stairs to heavens but all below will become a red hell.
To live more than all mortals only takes some infinites of killing, but to exist beyound itrself one only needs someone to outlive him.
When faced with the reality that everything decays one can only try and decays the fucks it gives to reality and then you are free to be a short damned happy hipocrite, you can do so by complete ignorance or supreme wisdom.
Oh, this is gonna be good.
zmounds (god’s mounds)
Given the alt-text, I had a thought, if he dreams of nothing greater, then why did he become a demiurge? We know how what his thoughts were, but did he recognize the trap of the wheel before he was a demiurge?
Maybe being a Demiurge just seemed equivalent to having a bigger sword?
I don’t think he planned on it.
Probably just swatted a gloving little gnat who was being a little bit more annoying than usual, and later realized he’s got a glovy thing in his brow which somehow makes him marginally stronger.
I presume the point of this narrative interlude is to find out. Continue reading.
It’s a reasonable guess that he started with Jantris’ key. Possibly, he took it because Jantris asked it of him (dying request if Jantris was still mortal). Having one key made him a target for other demiurges, so he killed them and took their keys for tidiness. Eventually, he was too big to be left out of the 7-part pact but was never really into it.
Becoming a demigod by accident seems to be a recurring theme.
Possibly, or he challenged Jantris for leadership and beat him and gained it that way, but, that would imply wanting something bigger, glory or something.
“average person kills 3 people a year” factoid actualy (sic) just statistical error. average person kills 0 people per year. Yaun Ten Jantris, Lion of the Dead Men, who no longer remembers the face of his mother & kills over 5,000 people each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
even the typo *chefkiss*
The Spiders Georg of murder
Maya kicks one of the bodies over and says, “maybe next time don’t kill all the bakers and then you wouldn’t forget what warm bread tastes like”
Complete with ambitious, emotionally scarred, white-haired, future god, swordsman companion!
Also how does Yuan-not-Zod sit on a mountain of gore without getting his pants all crusty with blood?
Prestidigitation, Sorcerer/Warlock/Wizard cantrip.
His pants were white just this morning, you see
This will be “interesting”…
Time to see how Sword Saints fair against the heir of the Red Eyed King, even without a Key.
When do we think Alison will spare a thought for Himself, the Ruler of Devils? She agreed to when she met him in his cage of black iron.
When they said “let the bodies hit the floor” you weren’t supposed to take it literally, you jackass.
Yaganoth is one of the best written blood knights out there.
I think Mottom explained it best. It seems less like Jagganoth enjoys violence and more like he’s just physically incapable of existing in a state of not-violent.
Even the brittle peace brought by the Pact of the Seven-Part World felt wholly alien and wrong on a visceral level to the God-Eater, and while he tells himself his apocalyptic rampage is motivated by the promise of a better world, deep down it’s likely just a desire to return to the only life that feels right to him: a endless bloody struggle.
Quite possible that this is at least part of his motivation, or at the very least one reason Metatron chose him. It probably wasn’t too hard to convince him to start universal war all over again.
Also, to paraphrase his words during the battle. “the lord’s hand cannot grasp anything but a hilt. He must become violence itself.”
I dunno.
Instead of the endless cycle of wiping the world – which he confusingly relays about his endless siege on Metatron (like the Matrix’s the architect) – I think his story can be reduced down to a Rick and Morty quote:
“Oh boy; here I go killing again!” except with a really pious and stoic demeanor.
It’s weird seeing Jag look somewhat like an actual person instead of an Ork Warboss that decided to paint himself red.
I wonder if he eventually succumbed to male pattern baldness or he just realised having hair that long while fighting in The War To End All Wars was just asking for someone to start pulling it in the middle of a fight.
Personally? I suspect it was burned off, one way or another.
Seems like in a lot of things once some stage of “enlightenment” (for want of a better word) is achieved, the head is shorn; the ancient master archetype goes from a full head of hair in late middle-age to a complete baldness of a monastic variety (i.e., male pattern baldness is unlikely, at least can’t account for EVERY fictional instance). Same with Solomon; a clean, streamlined sort of look embodying “my mind and body are pure and I am at my peak”? Seems Solomon’s hair is back in a big way per the title-page, which, per the above, probably signifies his spiritual disarray and “wildness” after the whole Rayuba thing.
So basically young Jagganoth is Zelda Skyward Sword’s Demise…
Presumably this is prior to him getting the angel feathers, so while he’s admittedly a beefy dude, shouldn’t all those spears and arrows and swords be having some effect?
One would think, but K6BD fights run more on willpower than physics- Maya killed an angel with a broken sword once, after all.
My impression is that it’s a bit similar to the (late) Great Dragon, Mammon’s, (former) problem: he’s just too damn BIG, so ordinary spears and arrows and swords just get deep enough into his flesh to have much of an effect. Extraordinary weapons, on the other hand, could probably still affect him quite deeply at this stage of his life. But then the angel feathers removed even that possibility.
just can’t get*
I mean, they probably hurt, and he probably would make an effort to avoid unnecessary wounds, but I imagine to him this is very much like killing a swarm of mosquitos. You’re gonna end up with some bug bites, but you’re not exactly worried about dying from them.