Here we see that David, like all the other Demiurges, fears death. They are decidedly mortal, with only THE WORM being an exception. Despite his unpleasant demeanor, Jaggannoth is the only one who is willing to die to dream of another world, in that he emulates the God-Children of YISUN.
I disagree. Solomon is afraid, but his fear isn’t about his own death – if it were, he wouldn’t be actively seeking it, demanding to be killed.
What he *really* fears, I think is shown more by what he’s been trying to do all along…as said on the previous page, he wanted to stop the wheel of history, so to speak.
And in King Of Swords, when the Demiurges converged to discuss the pact, he said “Have you forgotten so easily where we are? Have you forgotten what happened here?”, after Incubus had described the destruction of Rayuba to Allison – as well as “Our war is not ended. But the war of all against all is over. It began here, and it died here. With us”. His focus was on the universal war and the destruction it caused, including the killing of his entire home world.
And perhaps the most direct proof of what Solomon fears is a page in Breaker Of Infinities – with the quote “A man who holds fear in his heart will never be safe, no matter how strong he makes himself. No matter how iron hard he makes his defenses, if left untouched his fear will spring forth and devour him from the inside at a moment’s notice”. What the page depicts being…Solomon confronted by his own people, confronting him on the harshness of his laws – and how his protection can’t be justification for that when he failed to protect them from Jagganoth. A page about fear, shows Solomon as having failed his people – in failing to protect them.
He isn’t afraid of his own death. Looking at his priorities throughout the comic, he’s afraid of failing his people and having Rayuba fall into ruin again. And so he wanted to stifle all change, to strangle the root of potentiality, so that his world would not die.
That’s probably also why he exiled himself and is seeking his death – because being confronted with his own failings as a ruler may have undermined his trust in himself, and made him view himself as one of the very threats to Rayuba he seeks to prevent.
I think you’ve hit the nail on its head. This all started when Solomon David couldn’t protect the people dearest to him, his wife and daughters, and we’ve seen that he’s still haunted by that failure, even after all this time.
I didn’t interpret it as Solomon fearing death, if anything he fears weakness. He is at his weakest and most vulnerable he’s been for his entire existence. He’s ashamed of being a normal, mortal human being.
I wonder, sometimes, if White Chain could perhaps be the angel who was asked to protect a comb, and thus the first to think for themselves.
Not that likely but there would be a poetry to that, and I feel at times we lose touch with the truth: that White Chain is older then everyone else here, by several magnitudes.
“Yes David your empire was very impressive and you are very important but I was on my 35th incarnation when you were born. I witnessed the angelic order set in place by the gods themselves toppled by the first guy to show up. You cannot halt the wheel.”
On that note, I wonder what the first order of angels were like? And the exact relationship White Chain has to the gods she prays to. Did she meet any? Were all the angels forged directly by gods, or was the first order of angels the originals, and the angels we know made by them afterwards?
We know the stories of the gods are contradictory, but how can that be so when all the witnesses are overly serious devotees?
I suppose one solution to that would be if there was a non-angel around to spread the tales…perhaps a god who is a bird, or a bird who is actually a god…
Not something I expect the story to touch on, but I wouldn’t mind seeing someone ask White Chain if she ever met Pree Aesma.
All angels were created by the gods, but it’s been directly stated that only Metatron remembers them. The other angels lost their memory after their destruction, as all others have reincarnated at least once. Memories don’t carry perfectly across reincarnation, but only surface in flashes of insight or sensation.
Thank you! Its been so long since this was mentioned I had forgotten that the angels forgot.
I suppose nobody can be sure of the truth of the gods then, as Metatron cannot be trusted and all other knowledge is staggered by word of mouth across incarnations.
Glad to be reminded a lot of this can be solved by killing Metatron. Its not enough to reach Heaven through violence, once you’re there you have to double down on the violence. The First King did not kill Metatron, and so became trapped.
You need a 100% heavenly killscore to unlock the true ending and he just wasn’t gamer enough.
Seventeen Axes, Fifteen Spoked Wheel of the House of Braids
That is five billion nine hundred and ninety nine million nine hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine. It is precisely one less than 6 billion.
I think the joke is that they said “billion” after the number, which can be read as multiplying that amount by an additional billion. Like how “$100 hundred” can be read as “a hundred hundred”, or ten thousand.
You should be better at counting, O Queen of Worms. Your body is the multitude, after all.
Concerning that Calm Hitler gets gently redeemed as a wise old master, while all the other demigods (who are brutalised victims of this and that) just get splatted as they deserve.
Nah. He has to eat his pride. That‘s much worse for him than dying. He *wants* to die, after all. And if he doesn‘t manage to get over his pride, well, the setting offers options.
Solomon’s fear isn’t about his own death but the failure to protect Rayuba. He sought to halt history’s cycle, dreading the universal war’s devastation. His exile and quest for death stem from self-doubt as a leader. This fear, as depicted, underscores his concern for Rayuba’s survival and his people’s well-being. In Vietnamese: Nỗi sợ hãi của Solomon không phải về cái chết của mình mà là sự thất bại trong việc bảo vệ Rayuba và nhân dân của mình.
Here we see that David, like all the other Demiurges, fears death. They are decidedly mortal, with only THE WORM being an exception. Despite his unpleasant demeanor, Jaggannoth is the only one who is willing to die to dream of another world, in that he emulates the God-Children of YISUN.
I disagree. Solomon is afraid, but his fear isn’t about his own death – if it were, he wouldn’t be actively seeking it, demanding to be killed.
What he *really* fears, I think is shown more by what he’s been trying to do all along…as said on the previous page, he wanted to stop the wheel of history, so to speak.
And in King Of Swords, when the Demiurges converged to discuss the pact, he said “Have you forgotten so easily where we are? Have you forgotten what happened here?”, after Incubus had described the destruction of Rayuba to Allison – as well as “Our war is not ended. But the war of all against all is over. It began here, and it died here. With us”. His focus was on the universal war and the destruction it caused, including the killing of his entire home world.
And perhaps the most direct proof of what Solomon fears is a page in Breaker Of Infinities – with the quote “A man who holds fear in his heart will never be safe, no matter how strong he makes himself. No matter how iron hard he makes his defenses, if left untouched his fear will spring forth and devour him from the inside at a moment’s notice”. What the page depicts being…Solomon confronted by his own people, confronting him on the harshness of his laws – and how his protection can’t be justification for that when he failed to protect them from Jagganoth. A page about fear, shows Solomon as having failed his people – in failing to protect them.
He isn’t afraid of his own death. Looking at his priorities throughout the comic, he’s afraid of failing his people and having Rayuba fall into ruin again. And so he wanted to stifle all change, to strangle the root of potentiality, so that his world would not die.
That’s probably also why he exiled himself and is seeking his death – because being confronted with his own failings as a ruler may have undermined his trust in himself, and made him view himself as one of the very threats to Rayuba he seeks to prevent.
I think you’ve hit the nail on its head. This all started when Solomon David couldn’t protect the people dearest to him, his wife and daughters, and we’ve seen that he’s still haunted by that failure, even after all this time.
Only 2 demiurges feared death and for incubus it’s arguable
I didn’t interpret it as Solomon fearing death, if anything he fears weakness. He is at his weakest and most vulnerable he’s been for his entire existence. He’s ashamed of being a normal, mortal human being.
I wonder, sometimes, if White Chain could perhaps be the angel who was asked to protect a comb, and thus the first to think for themselves.
Not that likely but there would be a poetry to that, and I feel at times we lose touch with the truth: that White Chain is older then everyone else here, by several magnitudes.
“Yes David your empire was very impressive and you are very important but I was on my 35th incarnation when you were born. I witnessed the angelic order set in place by the gods themselves toppled by the first guy to show up. You cannot halt the wheel.”
On that note, I wonder what the first order of angels were like? And the exact relationship White Chain has to the gods she prays to. Did she meet any? Were all the angels forged directly by gods, or was the first order of angels the originals, and the angels we know made by them afterwards?
We know the stories of the gods are contradictory, but how can that be so when all the witnesses are overly serious devotees?
I suppose one solution to that would be if there was a non-angel around to spread the tales…perhaps a god who is a bird, or a bird who is actually a god…
Not something I expect the story to touch on, but I wouldn’t mind seeing someone ask White Chain if she ever met Pree Aesma.
All angels were created by the gods, but it’s been directly stated that only Metatron remembers them. The other angels lost their memory after their destruction, as all others have reincarnated at least once. Memories don’t carry perfectly across reincarnation, but only surface in flashes of insight or sensation.
Thank you! Its been so long since this was mentioned I had forgotten that the angels forgot.
I suppose nobody can be sure of the truth of the gods then, as Metatron cannot be trusted and all other knowledge is staggered by word of mouth across incarnations.
Glad to be reminded a lot of this can be solved by killing Metatron. Its not enough to reach Heaven through violence, once you’re there you have to double down on the violence. The First King did not kill Metatron, and so became trapped.
You need a 100% heavenly killscore to unlock the true ending and he just wasn’t gamer enough.
killed 5,999,999,999 billion demons
That’s a lot more than 6 billion
That is five billion nine hundred and ninety nine million nine hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine. It is precisely one less than 6 billion.
I think the joke is that they said “billion” after the number, which can be read as multiplying that amount by an additional billion. Like how “$100 hundred” can be read as “a hundred hundred”, or ten thousand.
You should be better at counting, O Queen of Worms. Your body is the multitude, after all.
That’s the dragons thing. Too bad that splitting headache broke his count.
But Angel, you promised you would!
Why is there nothing? Was there an announcement that I missed?
same…. he shoud put some advertisement on this page, because i open it like 20 times per day,
Another week with no update? We on hiatus again or what?
There have been concerningly few updates, and then there was the explanation. It is understandable.
There was? Where, what was it?
According to Twitter, Abaddon is visiting family so no updates until 11 October.
Ah, good, I was beginning to worry.
Pretty sure Salami Dave grows and shrinks based on his emotional state. Could be true of other characters as well.
Concerning that Calm Hitler gets gently redeemed as a wise old master, while all the other demigods (who are brutalised victims of this and that) just get splatted as they deserve.
Maybe he’ll be executed
Nah. He has to eat his pride. That‘s much worse for him than dying. He *wants* to die, after all. And if he doesn‘t manage to get over his pride, well, the setting offers options.
I just want him dead
Death is no punishment to a would-be martyr. White Chain knows his score.
I finally caught up. I was sort of hoping I wouldn’t until the series was over, but oh well. Time to set my month-long timers in motion once again.
Let us simply walk the Road and not search for its end
I would rather walk the road continuously, pauses only draw attention to how far I have come.
Abbadon isn’t in Florida, is he?
Solomon’s fear isn’t about his own death but the failure to protect Rayuba. He sought to halt history’s cycle, dreading the universal war’s devastation. His exile and quest for death stem from self-doubt as a leader. This fear, as depicted, underscores his concern for Rayuba’s survival and his people’s well-being. In Vietnamese: Nỗi sợ hãi của Solomon không phải về cái chết của mình mà là sự thất bại trong việc bảo vệ Rayuba và nhân dân của mình.