Seeker of Thrones 1-4
Chapter: 1
“In some parts they know the master of Throne as the god Zayus Patrom, father of lightning. In others they know him as the great warrior called Angel-Breaker, who fights with a spear dipped in molten silver. Only one name is bestowed upon him in common across all the wretched cosmos: King.”
-Sayophraxes, Silent Sister of the Wax Covenant
Why would you resist Jojo posing?
I know, right? It would only make the comic better.
It should be embraced everywhere.
Damnit, Abbadon! Now we must see a page full of exposition done with the entire cast Jojo-Posing.
Ohhhhhhh. Now I get it – Zoss is actually…
Oh my…
Yes. On the mortal plane which you come from he is the Father of Olympus.
I was thinking “Star Platinum.”
That too.
It makes an interesting parallel, as He did take on the ‘Titans’ in order to overthrow heaven, to rule with his brothers and sisters. Ironic he should suffer the same thing himself.
But would this mean that Zoss crowning Al-YIS-UN was another of his Conquests, such as Europa? Does he have a Wife by the name of Hera? or are these well made fabrications of the Percievers on Earth?
Would make for a lovely story, it would.
These tales are naught but lies.
But lies are also true.
But if Zoss is Zeus, then he must be a mere man from Earth. And if he his a mere man fro Earth, then where did he get his dark technologies from? Was there a technological society beyond our own buried in the mists of time? The fabled Atlantis perhaps? Or some other realm?
BIRDS?
No. He became known by that name for the time he spent upon that place.
Perhaps I should have said it’s the other way around – Our mythical Zeus is actually Zoss, and the only way he has visited Earth (other than just recently) is in stories and songs.
We are an insignificant speck lost in a dark obscure corner of a small galaxy in a forgettable cluster of groups in a backwater universe – just one in 777,777 – that no one has visited in millennia.
I doubt anyone important is from a place like that…
It’s likely Zoss is from Earth, especially since he chose his successor from there, but it’s also possible that a story about him could have come to Earth when it wasn’t isolated from the rest of the multiverse. So it’s not a must that he is from earth, it just seems likely.
(Same applies to the god Solomon)
Also remember that Solomon David and Zeus Pater are names with meanings grounded in historically probable events, and as-such should be fairly common in a multi-verse with worlds as like to ours as Allison’s Earth.
Some of those worlds are enough not like ours to have produced, very unusual bearers for those names.
Completely irrelevant, as is Zaid.
All we know is a lie. Yisun said the universe wasn’t actual, just its (Yisun’s) OPINION. A pretty informed opinion, after all Yisun IS the universe, and the universe is Yisun, but opinion nevertheless.
Zoss chose Zaid. Maybe. What we saw was Zoss knowingly giving the key to Alison.
We’ve seen Alison travel in time. From her meeting with Zoss to the far future. From the far future back to her college dormitory. Back to the far future where we think we are observing her now.
In any universe in which there is time travel cause and effect are linked, not hierarchical. Which is the cause and which the effect is a matter of opinion, as stated by Yisun.
There is NO CHOSEN ONE. Alison chose herself. Alison, the future king caused the war which deposed Zoss which created the conditions by which Alison could become king. All intermediary actions are designed purely so Alison can avoid boredom. Something to do in a quiet aeon on three.
Those who took control of he whO is thought to be THE CHOSEN ONE are going to be very disappointed.
Time in the multiverse runs neither forward nor back. Its more like a ball of wool exposed to drunken kittens for a few years, flushed down the toilet and retrieved via volcano. There is NO NOW, just an opinion governing a proint of view directing a sense of presence at or not at n event or place which may or may not have existed or be going to exist.
Yisun chages its opinion regularly. Its feminine half has that right by definition. Its masculine half retains, as always, the the right to be thoroughly confused and take the blame.
🙂
So it has been said and so it will be.
AYAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
What, White Chain?
When will you see that Alice-UN is the only True Heir, Rising King, Heir to the Throne and Master of the Wheel?
Are they all so blind as to not witness Alice-UN’s glory?
Oh, what am I saying… at that time I was, too, blinded by the pace of the events. Things went fast.
Blinded by the light.
Wrapped up like a douche
This plot development kind of reminds me of Dune, wherein Paul Atredies was not “supposed” to be the Kwisatz Haderach, at least according to the Bene Geserit and some others. The Universe, it would seem, had other plans. Something similar may be the case here, though it certainly seems that Zoss either intended Allison to be the Heir, or has realized that she is, or has resigned himself to accepting her, or . . .something like that.
To be honest. I would be disappointed if it turned out that Zaid really WAS meant to be the true heir. Like, here Abbadon has given us this great action heroine and we are seeing really good character development. For him to turn around and be like “Well she wasn’t SUPPOSED to be the chosen one.” Would diminish the importance and significance of her character. Like, for once, can we have a prophecy and a chosen one that is a woman, and without any “It’s accidentally a woman.” or “The chosen one is a woman.*”
*Conditions may apply
I’d like for the Seven to just be flat /wrong/ and for Allison to have always been intended to be the true heir.
I completely agree that women don’t get enough representation as action heroines, but I don’t think that Allison should need to be the chosen one for her to be significant as a heroine. Abaddon has even said in an interview (can’t find it right now, I’ll paraphrase what I remember) that he doesn’t like the Chosen One trope, and it seems pretty clear that he’s subverting it right now. Alison is the protagonist, not Zaid, chosen or not. Her actions have still been significant, and she’s well developed as a character.
Honestly, I’d be disappointed if she turned out to be chosen in some way- it’d feel like everything she’s done up to this point wouldn’t have been from her own will, but instead because she’s the chosen one. That’s what makes her accomplishments that much more incredible. She’s clearly not supposed to be here- she’s from a world that’s mostly disjoint from the multiverse, where gods, kings, demons, and reaching heaven through violence are nigh unknown, a young postgrad who still hasn’t entirely sorted her mundane life, and yet is thrust into a world she barely knows- but she decides to keep going. It’s precisely because the odds are stacked against her that make her that much more impressive.
Al-Yis-Un isn’t the chosen one, she is the one who has chosen. She is the chooser. The decider. Zoss has already confirmed this. And i don’t think the prophecy would have had any merit if it wouldn’t have left some wiggleroom for an assertive young kingling to force itself into it. Appearantly a girl who can act without thought can fullfil any prophecy
Sure, the prophecy says otherwise. But young Alice-Un is Royalty anyway! You think that prophecy matters one whit to her? She will become the true heir, if reality itself has to change to make it happen.
Have we heard anything definitive about the prophecy saying it can’t be her? Is it just that the word “King” in English is male? That doesn’t mean much when YISUN is all and no genders at once.
So in other words, she’ll royally screw up everyone’s plans and plots and become the ruler of everything! 😀
It’s funny how all of these minions think that they know better than Zoss, and that he must have been mistaken in what he did.
You’d think that White Chain, out of everyone, would see through Zoss’ deception, but I can think of two good reasons to think otherwise.
1. White Chain met Alice stumbling around the streets as a confused, helpless girl, who outright stated that the Thorn Knights were after Zaid, and she needed him rescued.
2. 2 Michael, Metatron 1, and Juggy all believe that Zaid is the subject of the prophecy, and told White Chain so. She may be unhappy with their methods and goals, but she has no reason to doubt their plan’s effectiveness.
Dunno about that.
But you know, from the look of Metatron, I’d say Metatron might be dying slowly – something Angels seem averse to.
If so, White Chain would do well to consider the following: The last gasp of a being immune to true death should never be trusted blindly – they still have too much to live for.
Your path has given you a perspective where that is a reasonable position.
White Chain’s path has not been the same as yours. For many kalpa she has struggled with he dissonance between her strong faith in Authority and the strong passions in her own Will.
To question the conclusions of her masters, even ones so corrupt, does not come so easily to her.
The whole point of Royalty is that it’s a Choice. Not just a Choice to accept what is given – but to Take what is Possible, and redefine the Possibility in the Taking.
Zaid was always a red herring. Alison should never have been Royalty – And that’s why she’s the one properly positioned to become it.
I hope Allison won’t buy that bullshit. I mean, Zoss literally SPEAKS to her. Helps her master the power he passed on. I can’t imagine that with the mood Allison is in she’ll just accept, you know, ‘Oh woops you’re right teehee let me just hand over this life-and-reality-altering power that upended my entire world and just go home!’.
She has already Chosen King.
White Chain will find that the Master Key is indeed Hers to keep.
Huh. So White Chain actually believes that bullshit??? Colour me surprised.
Allison might actually be relieved to think she doesn’t have to fight every master of the multiverse and become ruler of all creation, though. We’ll see.
From her rant at the inactive angels before she left (linked page and the one afterward: http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-3-58/ ), it seems White Chain is taking action for action’s sake. She’s frustrated with how the multiverse is a wretched hive of scum and villainy with the demiurges at the helm. Since Metatron is the only angel who is actually trying to do something about, it White Chain has sided with him, even if this may lead to evil.
If Al-YISUN can pose a chance against the demiurges and demonstrate good intentions I am sure White Chain would eventually side with her.
It’s a bit more complicated than that: White Chain doesn’t remember what Metatron told her, she said so herself. What she believes is Michael’s account; and even by that account, Metatron only foresaw Zoss fleeing and choosing a successor. The whole bit about Allison being the ‘wrong’ successor may be all in Michael’s head, and seeing all the signs that point towards her as the true successor, it probably is.
I had to go back and re-read it a few times but the Prophecy says that Zoss would choose his Successor, and Choosing is exactly what Zoss did when he bestowed that Key. Literally everyone in the setting (except MAYBE Cio) is ignoring the fact that that choice is what named the Successor, not the Prophecy.
I’m not sure what is surprising about 82 believing Metatron, the oldest living being in the universe and gods scribe.
OF COURSE the angel believes it’s master and Metatron both. Masters have that sort of effect and there’s no contrary information available. S/he wasn’t present when Allison met Zoss at the destruction of the-tree-of-wicked-good-peaches, and did not witness Zoss’s affirmation of Allison’s will. One has to decide if Zoss is a weak fleeing has-been or is still competent.
82 is about to activate her stand. Lol!
tut tut. Our Angelic Legolas seems to have mistaken prophecy for a set of instructions. The Cosmos does not work so deterministically, for should it then surely beings would either revolt or relent under its rule.
The Prophecy will happen, regardless of any perceived mistakes. If the Key was given to her, then she has all the right to claim her right as successor.
But would then not White Chain’s words be necessary to spur her towards achieving worthiness? All-YIS-UN has made great strides, but she will need many more steps before attaining royalty. More than fighting, she will need guidance. Even negative guidance has its use.
Well said child. As the one ‘Bob Ross who has great hair and paints trees’ said, the multiverse is filled with happy accidents. Like it or not, it shall be All-YIS-UN who’s name is Kill six billion demons who makes the choice of the new ruler.
Eciemoons are in dire straits, but I can count on this!
True ROYALTY makes no mistakes for their actions redefine the universe.
Revolutionize the world, Allison.
Does this mean that Allison will pull her zweihander out of Cio’s chest every fight from here on out?
I don’t know if it will happen, but it SHOULD happen.
Omg Gog-agog stop being so fabulous!
Also I’m pretty sure than lying on Jadis’ block like that isn’t very polite.
“I got a face made of worms, IDGAF”
TBH some of the kung fu magic we’ve seen so far is basically Hamon with longer mantras.
The only true king is the one that proves themselves worthy.
Angels: a white flame born in the void, made to be disappointed.
Declare yourself a lord and laugh
Declare yourself one of a class
But learn the steps, or be the last.
“The master key is not yours to keep.”
“Karthak proceeds to hiss at the angel like an angry cat.”
Then come and take it, thing of cold and ash.
That moment before you bursts someone’s bubble and say grandpa personally came back to life to give you your inheritance.
It just doesn’t seem to occur to anyone that Allison was the intended recipient all along.
A translation error in a prophecy, perhaps? Or did King Zoss just change his mind?
A true sovereign doesn’t let Fate tell him what to do, after all.
I’m wondering how much of it is just the Angels doing their bias/projection thing of anything that is of importance is the things/persons labeled with the he/his/man/male pro nouns. It seems anything ‘female’ is seen as ‘not angel’ and possibly too closely associated with demons/devils/the hot black flame for them to tolerate.
For beings that are not fans of physical form and concepts of gender, they tend to invest a lot into the concepts.
I would like to think White Chain’s ‘belief’ in what they are saying is based on parroting the words of their master because the only other alternative is to either not do anything and watch the worlds burn or be beaten into their next reincarnation by a flaming wheel.
I’m still kinda wanting White Chain and Allison to be friends but with all the mind fuckery and bullshit White Chain keeps getting sucked into and the fact they are -not- human and has no desire to ever be human I don’t think that’s gonna happen. :/
^ This the angels are being hypocritical. They wallow in the assumed power and relevance of the male gender without realizing how it is the same as what White Chain was doing becoming more feminine. The fact that Zoss had been king for so long just ingrained the assumption further.
Do not submit, Young King! Though the multiverse stand against you, though the concordance itself call for your surrender, continue to fight! Burn the Red City black! Show the lie of the Seven Worlds Pact!
Heh, speaking of “mistake”. A convenient lie to hide an inconvenient truth, I say! Worst of all, White Chain actually believes it, methinks!
Heh, White Chain’s in for a very rude awaking, for before her is the true heir of Zoss, chosen by him and him alone.
..y’all’re a bit slow.
to be expected of angels, I suppose, but really. We may not know much about Zaid, but he doesn’t seem the kingly type (even if he looks the part here).
..and we haven’t just gone through two books of character development to hand off The Important Bit to someone else and go home.
That’s probably why they want him. Just like the days of the old dynasties, the courtly schemers’ll back whatever milksop heir they think they can control. Then some royal bastard with a real fire in her belly shows up and flips their careful plans all on their oh-so-smart heads.
Heads which usually end up decorating the battlements.
Zaid on this page cracks me up. He looks like he doesn’t like sand, if you get what I’m saying.
He looks a lot more regal in White Chain’s imagination than in person.
It’s course and rough and irritating…
‘Look Anakin, Look at all the ducks I don’t give’
You’d think Metatron would have more issues with going along with Zoss’ plans.
Metatron has his own plan, it merely includes Zoss’.
If memory serves the added bit is the destruction of all.
No, Metatron just want to enthrone the Successor in their whole glory and resurrect YISUN
That may involves the destruction of all, now that I think about it.
The trick is that when Metatron refers to returning the keys to the “True King” he means Metatron, not Zaid.
86 is still keeping secrets.
Why do these top angels give so much of a shit about who does the job?
Are they worried that, if one part of the prophecy (who gets the crown) was inaccurate, the rest (who is deposed) might be too?
Is it just that the ordering influence of prophecy echoes their own order?
Or is the Mikey/Metatron/Juggs trio worried about what someone other than Zaid might do once they’ve mounted their throne?
I’d bet money that Metatron and Juggernaut Star are both quite aware of who the intended recipient is, they’re just setting up Zaid as the successor because he’s someone they can more easily manipulate than Zoss’s chosen heir.
Metatron may also simply wish to spite Zoss, what with the whole forcing him to live in eternal undying torment and betray the secrets of divinity to a mere mortal thing.
Your master, Preem Huh, is a cruel and brutal man, whose glory is unquestionable and who has subjected you to vast indignities.
He seeks to pass his crown to another.
Tell me you would not be all up ons that shit given half a chance.
… Zaid is the successor?
The Seven and the concordance have interpreted the prophecy so.
This assembly has interpreted the signs differently.