Well… it COULD be like a version of quantum immortality theory?
Quantum Immortality Theory argues you can only experience the versions of reality where you exist, and therefore cannot experience any version of reality where you die. It then goes on to discuss a lot of quantum mechanics I don’t understand, but one crazy (and impossible to disprove) interpretation of it is that every time you “die,” your consciousness jumps to a version of reality where it’s still alive. So Allison’s consciousness is a continuous thing that has experienced all these past lives, even if it lost its memories upon each reset.
(Sorry if this doesn’t seem relevant or make sense, I am too tired to be using the word “quantum” right now.)
Wowowow! Several stupendous images in one short page! Odin Allison, Conqueror Gog, Silicon Valley Allison… Abbadon you really delivered the goods today. Awesome.
…Is Gog Allison? Or rather, a collection of Allisons from the cycles, originating from the first one countless years ago? Always comes when they’re broken down to scoop up what’s left.
Might not be real, but it’s definitely going in a TTRPG campaign I run someday.
Huh… so when folks consume the worm, they’re offered an alternative (better) life from a previous reality via downloaded memories, and are allowed to “stay as long as they like?” And if I understand correctly, from the outside they effectively experience the entirety of that life in an instant and are consumed by The Worm?
If that’s the case, then it’s honestly a pretty solid deal. Considering the state of Throne, the prospect of hopping to a version of your life where you’re happier certainly is tantalizing.
The major argument against it would presumably be that this new life isn’t yours; your life ended when you ate the worm/the worm ate you. Now you’re just doing a Total Recall with someone else’s memories. Even so… if it FEELS like your life, like you’re still making choices and everything… then there are definitely a LOT of people for whom that would only be an improvement.
I mean she’s got a *lot* of Wormed individuals. It would make sense– though we’ve never seen how she offers the worms to people she doesn’t respect, so that might be particularly nasty.
Were you inspired by the final battle of Elden Ring or Asura’s Wrath with the tiny layer of water in the void zone? This is a trope that is present in many different stories, and I like it.
“Not her memory, mine” could well be Zoss speaking, given the scene. He’s appeared out of nowhere before and I’m convinced he’s “in” the master key somehow.
Something doesn’t make sense to me. If these are her past memories, why does she have the king’s key in her forehead in a previous life?
According to multiple sources in the story, this is the first turn of the wheel where Allison was chosen by Zoss. It’s why everything is so out of whack to begin with!
Perhaps a previous Heir even had Allison as one of their companions- or earth was contacted, and Allison ascended? Or maybe this Allison never had the Key Of Kings, and it’s simply manifesting on her head in these memories because it cannot be denied.
If it’s not the King’s Key, why is she wearing Zoss’ armour? This definitely looks like conquering king Allison (which, as Kestrel said, makes no sense).
Note that she doesn’t have the key in the meat puppet or lawyer memory. The only one where she has it, that is when she is experiencing Zoss’s memory. That’s what it means when Zoss-Allison says “not her memory, mine”
Its possible that either Zoss can choose how far back to reset time, or this isn’t the first time Allison has taken the key but Gog has only seen a few instances of the cycles with Allison so it’s relatively new compared to the billions of various other cycles she’s seen.
Gog noted on 79 that her last pitch wasn’t great so maybe she was referring to a previous cycle rather than their first meeting.
I am confused.
We have a memory of Allison-Zoss with the armour and everything, but also Gog seemed *surprised* to see Alison. Gog explicitly stated “This is new. You are not like the previous heirs” so…. how does that work?
If Gog never went to earth (because Allison’s earth is closed), then how come we have memories of Lawyer Alison.
Gog-Agog: Of course. Check the derivation of that word! I am the motherboard into which all my followers slot. Each one generates 1.21 Jiggawatts of creativity, and gives me the ever-expanding physical data storage that I need. And in case you hadn’t guessed: here is the Architect *erects standup of King Zoss* and here’s Agent Smith. *erects standup of Jagganoth* And over there is Neo! *points at Allison* Usually it’s him, *erects standup of Zaid* and she’s usually Trinity. *blows kiss at everyone*
Maya: So I’m Morpheus?
Cio: Only in thy dreams, pudding-arse!
Incubus: Indeed. Clearly it’s me.
White Chain: *sigh* *headshake*
10 Vigilant Gaze Purges the Horizon: Well, I must be ‘Dozer. *flexes larger pair of arms, pats belly with smaller pair* Yes, ‘Dozer! ♥
As we all know the original matrix movie was a Throne original production, and at the request (threat) of Gogagog it was distrivuted to the entier of the multivers.
I’m SO wondering if the Flesh Matrix Towers is a reality with a Conquering Gog, or just what Gog is really like on the inside: Every follower slotted in, giving her storage capacity in exchange for an illusion of their choice….
Gog, the gog-scape is my kind of aesthetic.
I really wonder about that older Alison. Did she also eat the worm? Or is there some sort of deep memory that persists through the resets?
Well… it COULD be like a version of quantum immortality theory?
Quantum Immortality Theory argues you can only experience the versions of reality where you exist, and therefore cannot experience any version of reality where you die. It then goes on to discuss a lot of quantum mechanics I don’t understand, but one crazy (and impossible to disprove) interpretation of it is that every time you “die,” your consciousness jumps to a version of reality where it’s still alive. So Allison’s consciousness is a continuous thing that has experienced all these past lives, even if it lost its memories upon each reset.
(Sorry if this doesn’t seem relevant or make sense, I am too tired to be using the word “quantum” right now.)
On page 79, Gog said her “last pitch wasn’t great”.
We thought she might have been referring to King of Swords 7-63 but maybe it was a previous cycle where Allison refused Gog’s offer here.
Wowowow! Several stupendous images in one short page! Odin Allison, Conqueror Gog, Silicon Valley Allison… Abbadon you really delivered the goods today. Awesome.
I don’t know that this is Silicon Valley Allison.
She’s going deeper–I think this might be pre-ascenscion Gog?
Pre-ascension Gog was a pile of worms. She isn’t human. She was never human.
We’re in WORMLAND
WHOMST did she marry?!
…Is Gog Allison? Or rather, a collection of Allisons from the cycles, originating from the first one countless years ago? Always comes when they’re broken down to scoop up what’s left.
Might not be real, but it’s definitely going in a TTRPG campaign I run someday.
When all is now, the past isn’t the part, the future isn’t the future, but the present is still your greatest gift
Huh… so when folks consume the worm, they’re offered an alternative (better) life from a previous reality via downloaded memories, and are allowed to “stay as long as they like?” And if I understand correctly, from the outside they effectively experience the entirety of that life in an instant and are consumed by The Worm?
If that’s the case, then it’s honestly a pretty solid deal. Considering the state of Throne, the prospect of hopping to a version of your life where you’re happier certainly is tantalizing.
The major argument against it would presumably be that this new life isn’t yours; your life ended when you ate the worm/the worm ate you. Now you’re just doing a Total Recall with someone else’s memories. Even so… if it FEELS like your life, like you’re still making choices and everything… then there are definitely a LOT of people for whom that would only be an improvement.
All people, even ROYALTY, die. Some are lucky enough to die after experiencing a life filled with joy.
Everyone dies one day. Everyone. Even wolves. But not books. Not words. Words don’t die.
~my 2 year old tamagotchi
I mean she’s got a *lot* of Wormed individuals. It would make sense– though we’ve never seen how she offers the worms to people she doesn’t respect, so that might be particularly nasty.
She’s not so unlike the other demiurges: she consumes worlds.
I think that I don’t understand any of this. Maybe.
I’ll happily admit, this arc is definitely one to reread once it’s eventually finished.
Who took control? Not you, me!
But maybe it was you the first time. Back when I was you.
Maybe. That’s what it looks like to me, at least.
Were you inspired by the final battle of Elden Ring or Asura’s Wrath with the tiny layer of water in the void zone? This is a trope that is present in many different stories, and I like it.
What’s playing on the radio in that last panel? Something from Pink Floyd The Wall, maybe?
“Not her memory, mine” could well be Zoss speaking, given the scene. He’s appeared out of nowhere before and I’m convinced he’s “in” the master key somehow.
Something doesn’t make sense to me. If these are her past memories, why does she have the king’s key in her forehead in a previous life?
According to multiple sources in the story, this is the first turn of the wheel where Allison was chosen by Zoss. It’s why everything is so out of whack to begin with!
Despite looking a whole lot like the King’s Key, could it be the lesser key of a mere demiurge?
Perhaps a previous Heir even had Allison as one of their companions- or earth was contacted, and Allison ascended? Or maybe this Allison never had the Key Of Kings, and it’s simply manifesting on her head in these memories because it cannot be denied.
If it’s not the King’s Key, why is she wearing Zoss’ armour? This definitely looks like conquering king Allison (which, as Kestrel said, makes no sense).
Note that she doesn’t have the key in the meat puppet or lawyer memory. The only one where she has it, that is when she is experiencing Zoss’s memory. That’s what it means when Zoss-Allison says “not her memory, mine”
Its possible that either Zoss can choose how far back to reset time, or this isn’t the first time Allison has taken the key but Gog has only seen a few instances of the cycles with Allison so it’s relatively new compared to the billions of various other cycles she’s seen.
Gog noted on 79 that her last pitch wasn’t great so maybe she was referring to a previous cycle rather than their first meeting.
Idk if this is too “out there” but:
What if it’s a memory of sometime that hasn’t happened yet?
Allison DID get put into Jadis’ machine, after all.
is it just me or is zoss-armor allison kind of a gilf
absolutely
It’s not just you.
WORM MATRIX
Everything Everywhere all at Once!
(holds up DURACELL™ brand battery) lol. i’m so random.
im gog a going grazy
I am confused.
We have a memory of Allison-Zoss with the armour and everything, but also Gog seemed *surprised* to see Alison. Gog explicitly stated “This is new. You are not like the previous heirs” so…. how does that work?
If Gog never went to earth (because Allison’s earth is closed), then how come we have memories of Lawyer Alison.
Earth is a closed and unconquered world in the current timeline. Who knows how its fate may have differed in previous turnings of the wheel?
I imagine that these are rather alternate, illusory worlds Gog is conjuring to try and keep Allison out.
I don’t think this is gonna work out the way anyone expects. Al’yisun, Gog agog, and certainly not us.
So Gog-Agog is the MATRIX!
Gog-Agog: Of course. Check the derivation of that word! I am the motherboard into which all my followers slot. Each one generates 1.21 Jiggawatts of creativity, and gives me the ever-expanding physical data storage that I need. And in case you hadn’t guessed: here is the Architect *erects standup of King Zoss* and here’s Agent Smith. *erects standup of Jagganoth* And over there is Neo! *points at Allison* Usually it’s him, *erects standup of Zaid* and she’s usually Trinity. *blows kiss at everyone*
Maya: So I’m Morpheus?
Cio: Only in thy dreams, pudding-arse!
Incubus: Indeed. Clearly it’s me.
White Chain: *sigh* *headshake*
10 Vigilant Gaze Purges the Horizon: Well, I must be ‘Dozer. *flexes larger pair of arms, pats belly with smaller pair* Yes, ‘Dozer! ♥
>:=)>
As we all know the original matrix movie was a Throne original production, and at the request (threat) of Gogagog it was distrivuted to the entier of the multivers.
Mi casa es su casa
I’m SO wondering if the Flesh Matrix Towers is a reality with a Conquering Gog, or just what Gog is really like on the inside: Every follower slotted in, giving her storage capacity in exchange for an illusion of their choice….
Damn that’s some SCORN shit
Grandma Allison lookin’ like Guts there.