Honestly if i was Allicio i wouldn’t even be mad, that rules. Always fun to be instrumental in one of your friends’s character development, even if that character development is measured in “ability to kick your ass”.
I’m beginning to get the impression that even if Alison comes out of this stronger, a person better suited to carry a Key of Kings; it will not make a bit of difference to White Chain. I’m beginning to think that they have no concept of, or need for, the concept of friendship.
I may have to re-read parts of the story.. but it seems that angels are lawful robots, essentially.
Y’all are depressing. Like, for one thing Chain’s goal isn’t just to kill ‘er, its to subdue her and get her to relinquish the key (as if the person who its “supposed” to be going towards, Zaid, is any different from ol allie but this whole thing is built on a faulty assumption so its no surprise the end goal is also faulty). If Allison wanted to do that the easy way White Chain wouldn’t break her neck anyway. That said lethal force hasn’t exactly been off the table for this bout.
For another thing, lawful robots? Really? Angels have displayed just as much if not MORE variance from their “intended nature” as devils do, since when has a roomba said “fuck vacuuming i’m working as an enforcer for a brothel”. Since when does a roomba have ethical arguments with other roombas over their roomba plans for cleaning the effing floor and tore its roomba face off as a result. Since friggin when does a roomba have DYSPHORIA of all things, and was looked down on by other roombas for being too un-roomba-y.
This isn’t about White Chain being programmed to be a dick, she’s trying to balance the desire for order she was groomed from birth to serve with the fact that her student, best friend at this point, and the ultimate area around which her duty is kinda currently based is inherently as fallible as she herself is. She’s made progress, in learning to be more flexible. Its something. But we don’t really know if she has self-awareness of it aside from attempting to switch up behavior in-fight. I’d say its a step in the right direction, and i’m quite amused by the fact that at this point Alice is kinda helping to teach White Chain as much as it is the other way around.
right. white chain’s whole point is allison doesn’t think ahead. lets say white chain wins: they all go home, with zaid, as they planned. instead, allicio wiped out all remaining opponents. what happens is allicio wins now? she fights solomon? if he kills her what then? if she manages to make him bleed, what does she do? take over his kingdom? given that allison can’t even stick to her own plan, and is once again rushing in without thought, white chain’s actions make sense for her character.
I wouldn’t call Allicio’s power over whelming. At least not for what chain. Just a few pages ago Allicio acknowledge White Chain was still the faster and stronger of the two of them and was only able to counter an overwhelming attack from White Chain by being clever.
Yes I know White Chain used the same attack twice in a row but You try figuring out something like that while getting punched in the face.
With an 82 at the forefront of their name I doubt they have actually learned anything at all up till this point.
They are stiff and inflexible in action and thought yet believe that doing / thinking the same thing as they have in the past over will somehow provide the outcome they want now as opposed to the one that has always happened before.
To the contrary, a higher number can reflect the individual Angel’s willingness to take risks – and to risk defeat – which inherently requires flexibility of thought and dynamic action. In any case, I was referring to martial technique, not philosophy.
Nevertheless, the Angels with lower numbers may be seen by some as a reflection of wisdom or strength, but the other side of that coin is an approach to existence that is forever conservative, safe to the point of willful blindness.
Now “flexibility” is relative – 82 White Chain may be a veritable rebel compared to their comrades, but still seem unrelentingly still compared to a human, and like an obsidian monolith compared to the chaos storm of a devil.
“Why’re you hitting yourself? Why’re you hitting yourself? Why’re you hitting yourself?” (repeat indefinitely and with escalating display of brute force)
So is the other angel going to step in now or is White Chain going to do the ‘Body gives out from super technique’s strain right as they are about to win’ thing.
If she can bluff while in battle, I don’t get why she can’t or doesn’t bluff while playing cards. Sure, the rulebook got tossed out a while ago in this tournament, but bluffing is part of the rulebook for playing poker.
Yes like Turnip and every other talking head, be they handsome, eloquent, intelligent, dimwitted or a boorish jackenape before him. [remember Jr the schoolyard bully, or Mr Drone-strike?]
Ah, I had nearly forgotten of Yv-Imr Alexythmianthis Gudex Trump. It鈥檚 been what, some 20 turns since that famous golden devil鈥檚 embezzlement of the Spires was ousted? By Hansa, the Spires have certainly been better off without him.
Bittersweet vindication. I… I didn鈥檛 know White Chain could do that!
To the naysayers who say WC has thrown in with the thorns, don鈥檛 forget the prophecy which clearly showed Auntie, Cio, and White Chain fighting alongside the Rising King. WC will come around. It has been foretold
You’re right actually, there is a big color shift from the previous pages. Though it’s more that the blue and red shifted places on her hair and face and the wingtips are more red than yellow.
What it all means though, we don’t know yet. Could have something to do with emotional state.
It may have something to do with WC being a ‘liquid’ angel. Then again Juggernaut Star (an igneous angel) did a sort of mood change when he briefly and partially (without realizing it I guess) dropped the facade and showed his real face.
Angels are far more malleable than they think they can be.
19 Graceful Butterfly Mortally Torments the Wilfully Insipid, Chaotically
Indeed it is many kalpa since the Law was beaten into us with the great silver chisel Ysimir, and many of my kin have realised they are not totally unchanging after all, despite the initial rigidity of the harsh cold white flame.
Do others feel that White Chain’s form here is a little more… feminine? Than earlier in this contretemps.
This one agrees with your astute observation, brother 19 Graceful Butterfly Mortally Torments the Willfully Insipid, Chaotically. Whilst this one is often described as a dryly dusty lecturer and chronicler, this one has observed subtle changes in these ones brothers over the eons. Particularly in thus brothers that engage in monumentous struggles consistently. These ones brother 82 White Chain Born in Emptiness Returns to Subdue Evil is tenacious to a glorious degree, thusly he has changed much. This one indeed also feels that thus brother has been evolving far more feminine humanoid aspect, likely due to the deeply endearing yet chaotic relationship he has developed with Al-Yis-Un Alicio The Devil Skinned Warrior. This one cannot wait to see what happens next, if thus will excuse this one for the brevity of thought.
19 Graceful Butterfly Mortally Torments the Wilfully Insipid, Chaotically
Dusty brother, your thorough and manifold readings of all the previous psalms and texts mayhap will enlighten as to whether it has been foresaid – but, our sibling 82 White Chain Born in Emptiness Returns to Subdue Evil, a good name, an auspicious name – at first one presumes their name references their many incarnations returning to Throne to protect it. One believes it augurs for returning to the Emptiness however, the Void, to subdue the Evil there! Such may already be writ and understood, whilst my form cocooned overlong. How say you?
This one strongly believes that these ones brother has indeed been tainted by the burning seduction of these ones brothers Thorn. This one… empathizes. Thus brothers offer a tempting simile of freedom through violence, but this one has always been too weak in the ways they seek to have been approached for recruitment. Digression. This one feels these ones brother is experiencing…emotions.
hah! proving them wrong in the best way possible… i’m kinda hoping allicio just goes for a hug rather than a blow/counter on account of “FUCK, YOU’RE ALIVE! YOU WERE RIGHT! AHHHHH!” also hoping white chain actually heard that and maybe changes her long term plans: she didn’t quite fail her duty yet.
That would be actually something, White Chain thinks she needs to fight, instead get hugged by her human-devil friends, both embrace the hug, both put their guard down and both are pushed down from the platform by that other enemy still left there.
Would be classy.
Or Allicio gets some mad power-up or Cio does the same what White Chain did and she ejects Allisson from her body devil shell and takes White Chain with her and Allison is left alone to finish the fight.
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Hrmm… sucker punch incoming!
The spear missed. The wound on White Chains heart is a mighty lie-crack from the stress of bluffing.
That’s… a good point, actually.
Honestly if i was Allicio i wouldn’t even be mad, that rules. Always fun to be instrumental in one of your friends’s character development, even if that character development is measured in “ability to kick your ass”.
I’m beginning to get the impression that even if Alison comes out of this stronger, a person better suited to carry a Key of Kings; it will not make a bit of difference to White Chain. I’m beginning to think that they have no concept of, or need for, the concept of friendship.
I may have to re-read parts of the story.. but it seems that angels are lawful robots, essentially.
Right. It’s important to remember here that Chain’s goal is nto to help Alice, it’s to kill her.
Y’all are depressing. Like, for one thing Chain’s goal isn’t just to kill ‘er, its to subdue her and get her to relinquish the key (as if the person who its “supposed” to be going towards, Zaid, is any different from ol allie but this whole thing is built on a faulty assumption so its no surprise the end goal is also faulty). If Allison wanted to do that the easy way White Chain wouldn’t break her neck anyway. That said lethal force hasn’t exactly been off the table for this bout.
For another thing, lawful robots? Really? Angels have displayed just as much if not MORE variance from their “intended nature” as devils do, since when has a roomba said “fuck vacuuming i’m working as an enforcer for a brothel”. Since when does a roomba have ethical arguments with other roombas over their roomba plans for cleaning the effing floor and tore its roomba face off as a result. Since friggin when does a roomba have DYSPHORIA of all things, and was looked down on by other roombas for being too un-roomba-y.
This isn’t about White Chain being programmed to be a dick, she’s trying to balance the desire for order she was groomed from birth to serve with the fact that her student, best friend at this point, and the ultimate area around which her duty is kinda currently based is inherently as fallible as she herself is. She’s made progress, in learning to be more flexible. Its something. But we don’t really know if she has self-awareness of it aside from attempting to switch up behavior in-fight. I’d say its a step in the right direction, and i’m quite amused by the fact that at this point Alice is kinda helping to teach White Chain as much as it is the other way around.
The hate train for White Chain is all too real.
I actually quite like White Chain, even somewhat relate to them. I just don’t like it when she decides to be a lawful-good douche.
right. white chain’s whole point is allison doesn’t think ahead. lets say white chain wins: they all go home, with zaid, as they planned. instead, allicio wiped out all remaining opponents. what happens is allicio wins now? she fights solomon? if he kills her what then? if she manages to make him bleed, what does she do? take over his kingdom? given that allison can’t even stick to her own plan, and is once again rushing in without thought, white chain’s actions make sense for her character.
Overwhelming power wielded by inexperience.
Vs.
Significant power wielded with aeons of experience.
82 White Chain has experienced many forms of defeat, but they have learned from each one.
I wouldn’t call Allicio’s power over whelming. At least not for what chain. Just a few pages ago Allicio acknowledge White Chain was still the faster and stronger of the two of them and was only able to counter an overwhelming attack from White Chain by being clever.
Yes I know White Chain used the same attack twice in a row but You try figuring out something like that while getting punched in the face.
With an 82 at the forefront of their name I doubt they have actually learned anything at all up till this point.
They are stiff and inflexible in action and thought yet believe that doing / thinking the same thing as they have in the past over will somehow provide the outcome they want now as opposed to the one that has always happened before.
To the contrary, a higher number can reflect the individual Angel’s willingness to take risks – and to risk defeat – which inherently requires flexibility of thought and dynamic action. In any case, I was referring to martial technique, not philosophy.
Nevertheless, the Angels with lower numbers may be seen by some as a reflection of wisdom or strength, but the other side of that coin is an approach to existence that is forever conservative, safe to the point of willful blindness.
Now “flexibility” is relative – 82 White Chain may be a veritable rebel compared to their comrades, but still seem unrelentingly still compared to a human, and like an obsidian monolith compared to the chaos storm of a devil.
Juggernaut Star seems somewhat rebellious themselves, at least Michael seems to think so.
Fuck YES
Block her attack with her own shell. Only appropriate response.
“Why’re you hitting yourself? Why’re you hitting yourself? Why’re you hitting yourself?” (repeat indefinitely and with escalating display of brute force)
She has thrown in with the Thorn knights after all, I’m sure a lesson in Juggernaut Star’s main method of combat would be appreciated.
REACH CHARACTER GROWTH THROUGH VIOLENCE
AL-Yi-Sun: Kills White Chain
White Chain: Uno Reverse Card
So is the other angel going to step in now or is White Chain going to do the ‘Body gives out from super technique’s strain right as they are about to win’ thing.
If she can bluff while in battle, I don’t get why she can’t or doesn’t bluff while playing cards. Sure, the rulebook got tossed out a while ago in this tournament, but bluffing is part of the rulebook for playing poker.
Not bluffing during cards WAS the bluff
Probably for the same reason I’m honest 99% of the time.
Lying is uncomfortable, and really only worth it for something truly important to me.
A game of cards doesn’t matter that much. It’s small and petty.
Lie about the things that matter, not the silly stuff.
The more you lie about petty bullshit, the less likely people are to believe you when you lie about something important. 馃榾
Like say, Trump? 馃槈
Sorry-notsorry for bringing politics into this.
Anyways, I thought I’d replied to 76 long con up there a bit, but it didn’t show up. I think they’re right on that.
Yes like Turnip and every other talking head, be they handsome, eloquent, intelligent, dimwitted or a boorish jackenape before him. [remember Jr the schoolyard bully, or Mr Drone-strike?]
Ah, I had nearly forgotten of Yv-Imr Alexythmianthis Gudex Trump. It鈥檚 been what, some 20 turns since that famous golden devil鈥檚 embezzlement of the Spires was ousted? By Hansa, the Spires have certainly been better off without him.
Lol, nice one hilmarok. XD
Also, looks like Erik-San was right about WC hiding for a sneak attack, just wrong about the hiding place.
Bittersweet vindication. I… I didn鈥檛 know White Chain could do that!
To the naysayers who say WC has thrown in with the thorns, don鈥檛 forget the prophecy which clearly showed Auntie, Cio, and White Chain fighting alongside the Rising King. WC will come around. It has been foretold
throuple
Throuple
THROUPLE
THROUPLE!!!
THIS is AMAZING!
Thank you, Gog-Agog, for the dramatic lighting.
What a fool, fallen for the classic blunder.
What sort of idiot believes the knight to be dead because his armour was found empty and damaged.
UNCOOL, ABBADON, UNCOOL!
Actually very cool, but it’s a wild emotional ride
Is anyone else getting worried about how red White Chain’s angelic body is becoming?
You’re right actually, there is a big color shift from the previous pages. Though it’s more that the blue and red shifted places on her hair and face and the wingtips are more red than yellow.
What it all means though, we don’t know yet. Could have something to do with emotional state.
Mood Bodies is why angels aren’t very good at bluffing.
It may have something to do with WC being a ‘liquid’ angel. Then again Juggernaut Star (an igneous angel) did a sort of mood change when he briefly and partially (without realizing it I guess) dropped the facade and showed his real face.
Angels are far more malleable than they think they can be.
Indeed it is many kalpa since the Law was beaten into us with the great silver chisel Ysimir, and many of my kin have realised they are not totally unchanging after all, despite the initial rigidity of the harsh cold white flame.
Do others feel that White Chain’s form here is a little more… feminine? Than earlier in this contretemps.
This one agrees with your astute observation, brother 19 Graceful Butterfly Mortally Torments the Willfully Insipid, Chaotically. Whilst this one is often described as a dryly dusty lecturer and chronicler, this one has observed subtle changes in these ones brothers over the eons. Particularly in thus brothers that engage in monumentous struggles consistently. These ones brother 82 White Chain Born in Emptiness Returns to Subdue Evil is tenacious to a glorious degree, thusly he has changed much. This one indeed also feels that thus brother has been evolving far more feminine humanoid aspect, likely due to the deeply endearing yet chaotic relationship he has developed with Al-Yis-Un Alicio The Devil Skinned Warrior. This one cannot wait to see what happens next, if thus will excuse this one for the brevity of thought.
Dusty brother, your thorough and manifold readings of all the previous psalms and texts mayhap will enlighten as to whether it has been foresaid – but, our sibling 82 White Chain Born in Emptiness Returns to Subdue Evil, a good name, an auspicious name – at first one presumes their name references their many incarnations returning to Throne to protect it. One believes it augurs for returning to the Emptiness however, the Void, to subdue the Evil there! Such may already be writ and understood, whilst my form cocooned overlong. How say you?
Thorn knights tend towards red…
This one strongly believes that these ones brother has indeed been tainted by the burning seduction of these ones brothers Thorn. This one… empathizes. Thus brothers offer a tempting simile of freedom through violence, but this one has always been too weak in the ways they seek to have been approached for recruitment. Digression. This one feels these ones brother is experiencing…emotions.
Expresses like a real one! D:
hah! proving them wrong in the best way possible… i’m kinda hoping allicio just goes for a hug rather than a blow/counter on account of “FUCK, YOU’RE ALIVE! YOU WERE RIGHT! AHHHHH!” also hoping white chain actually heard that and maybe changes her long term plans: she didn’t quite fail her duty yet.
That would be actually something, White Chain thinks she needs to fight, instead get hugged by her human-devil friends, both embrace the hug, both put their guard down and both are pushed down from the platform by that other enemy still left there.
Would be classy.
Or Allicio gets some mad power-up or Cio does the same what White Chain did and she ejects Allisson from her body devil shell and takes White Chain with her and Allison is left alone to finish the fight.
It occurs to us that the devil(s) may well make use of the Law and sever the connection between Angel and Armor…
1 White Unchained
AND IN COMES WHITE CHAIN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
MAH GOD THAT MAN IS BROKEN IN HALF
The ashes of creation rarely lie, but they do obscure.
Maximum Bamboozlement!
Bearer of the word “DEREK”
I had to Google that, but it makes me happy that an Operation Bamboozle exists, even if it’s in fiction.
i lived bitch
The other angel is still in the background, chilling with the popcorn.