No, Open Palm is North Star, sound effects and all, but this? This barrage of closed-fisted punches that expand beyond the attacker’s breadth?
This is a Jojo.
The Stardust Crusaders manga (89) came before the Yu Yu Hakusho manga (90). But yelling ORA like that is usually a delinquent/yankee thing. It has a number of meanings, but the way delinquents use it can mean anything from “It’s time!” to “Look here!” to “What the fuck?!”, depending on the context. There’s some old bosozoku (motorcycle delinquent) videos from the 90s and 80s on Youtube, and you’ll notice that they yell ORA as a challenge, while hitting people, and to amp each other up.
Basically, both Yusuke and Jotaro are delinquents, so they both yell “ORA”. It belongs to neither of them.
Overall? Roughly as old as humanity, Demons, and Servants have existed.
This reincarnation? White chain still currently holds the record for most reincarnations of any angel we have seen. They are, thus, quite young for an angel.
She’s a liquid angel, I think, which shows her age. I think that refers to the age of her current incarnation, but I’m not sure. Vapor and Plasma angels are both younger. So she’s middle of the road, erring on the younger side.
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To be precise, the most reincarnations of any angel *due to falling in battle in defense of Throne*.
Theoretically, other angels may have fallen more often , but White Chain has fallen in the line of duty, in the defense of The City at the center of the Multiverse, more often than any other.
Hey Abbadon, have you been planning this from the moment you introduced the goofy helmet that partially opens up when in Combat Mode? Because I see what you did there.
Also I really love the nuance of the different expressions on White Chain’s two faces… Her armor’s face shows anger hardened by determination, while her soul flame’s face shows anger tinged with grief. I don’t think White Chain’s will is as focused as she thinks it is…
^This, and that was before he had the key, but also, we’ve seen her use Aesma’s Heel, and Aesma is the one who picked up the wheel itself to beat up her jerk of a husband.
Zoss was also a learned man and The first mortal to break the gates of Heaven open. He was Royalty. Then he made the Magus Gates. A sword doesn’t mean too much unless you know how to use it.
would’ve been smart to save this for when she really needed to fight other enemies. . . but hey; being manipulated to fight your pupil is more important lol
Thank you for sharing this thought, that’s a really interesting interpretation and I wouldn’t have thought of it but I think it’s incredibly fitting, especially with an above comment somewhere saying how White Chain’s two expressions appear distinct.
You are partly correct, I think. However, it is her stone body, her anchor to the realm of existence–of creation, of humanity–that gives her a female appearance. Banishment to the Void as the result of its destruction would cut her off from this.
I regard her use of the full angelic arsenal as a very grave matter. It is, in a way, a betrayal of what she once held almost dearly.
Considering White Chain uses devil-banishing technique that is highly self destructive, two of Allison’s friends are gonna end up in the void with their mask/armor in pieces… which will leave her alone after the fight. Oh no alone with normal-dude-Zaid which is definitely worse
How could you forget our two ancillary friends so easily?! A certain Red Devil and mechanic will not be very pleased…
And on that note, I choose to believe our Zaid has used his endless hours as the captive and pawn of the Seven Rulers of the Multiverse to focus on self-care and self-improvement, ultimately becoming a sexier, more muscular, more compassionate human being.
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA!!!!!
When a planting goes wild, climbing beyond its intended bed, or growing along a different path, many gardeners attempt to prune their stray back to a nub and try again.
Though White Chain has tended Allison with intent and determination, she has not tended her with thought and care. It would behoove this aeon to recall, though, that Royalty is by its nature unwilling to be subject to the cutting of others.
the positioning of white chain’s wing blocking that punch is extremely phallic and considering white chain’s gender issues and how they tie back to her loyalty to the angels, that’s probably intentional.
i hope she survives to regret this.
White Chain may well have fought devilskin warriors before, and probably things even worse. (Didn’t Abbadon say that Angels used that martial arts of theirs against minor GODS?) Allicio looks worried and with reason. For all her potential power, she is no match yet for an angel going all-out to defeat her. Unless Cio (Who had a piece of a Key for a while, so she must know more about them than Allison) comes up with some trick, it looks like this really might be a repeat of the Allison/Yabalcio fight, with White Chain winnin and only then realizing what she has done. At least WC doesn’t WANT to kill Allicio. I don’t think. No.
I am beginning to suspect that White Chain is jobbing right now and we’re about to find out just how far apart in power Alison/Alicio is from Salami Dave
Prediction:
White chain annihilates Alicio breaking Cio’s mask in the process (Krayu Mat has been described as a demon banishing technique).
Alison subsequently uses the key in a great act of will to either:
A) Create, reforging Cio’s mask. White Chain realises it is mistaken about Alison but not before its body is consumed by Krayu Mat flinging it back into the void.
B) Destroy, White Chain’s physical body. Alison goes into a rage overwhelming White Chain despite Krayu Mat therefor proving herself worthy of Royalty while also laying some harsh truths down for White Chain
Either way White Chain finds itself in the void for a bit of soul searching and returns to a brand new (physical) body that more accurately (and fabulously) reflects her true form
When an angel, a sexless being, is following the LAW as a robot would its programming what other pronoun would one use? Doubly so when it’s actions are in base in denial of their innermost beliefs
Also, if this is intended as a reply to my previous post please note the deliberate pronoun use in the final line
Precisely. ‘It’ been more a reference here to one without will, an automata, then a PC-less gafe of a gender substitute. But please continue to educate me on the travails of this world and why it means so much to you that you must transfer the baggage here.
Yes, it was meant as a reply. I was sure I clicked reply on your comment.
In all fairness, you have a point and I did not notice your shift of pronoun, but it still seems… mean to me to call a character “it.” I am not badly upset, but I do feel like commenting on it because it annoys me a little. It might annoy others much more…
I know this is an old thought, but it’s still nagging. This is an old story. Biblically old. We have a (stone cold) angel who thinks his/her (Zoss) god has made a big mistake and has decided it’s up to him/her to fix the mistake by eliminating it/her/humans from creation.
Is there going to be a casting-down from Supreme arrogance and a creation of an appropriate Hell?
K6BD epic reveal: Allison fails, and is revealed to not be the true heir. But neither is Zaid. The true heir of Zoss is Number 1, the red imp from Chapter 2.
This sort of all-out full frontal assault makes me wonder whether Al-ys-Un has in any way practiced her ability to teleport herself (much less ships containing all of her krewe) quickly on demand.
I mean, that would seem like a worthy power to master, given that teleporting away has been a great get-out-of-jail free card for her in a couple of situations (even if in one of them she was pushed by Cio).
Can’t imagine any martial art which wouldn’t benefit from the ability to teleport out from in front of your enemies alpha strike and behind their undefended back.
White Chain has forsaken the path of the Empty Palm for the Closed Fist. Likewise, Allicio has not thrown an empty palm once in her admittedly short life, while of her components, Cio is famously hot tempered (she is black flame corporeal), and Allison only open-handed one strike in the whole tournament (the bird). Even when she called out ‘Empty Palm Crushes the Deceitful’, she through a closed fist. She only remembered and tried to practice the Trigram Mantra once, immediately before Cio arrived.
Both of our combatants here are direly in need of reflecting on the Trigram Mantra. Our devilskin warrior will have difficulty (if I’m doing my math right, her soul has an effective 1.5 black flame to .5 white flame composition), but our angel, cold as their flames are said to be, seems equally hot-headed and head-full.
Maybe if they can burn off some of that anger, they’ll be in a better state to reflect on what they actually want and what is preventing them from actualizing that.
(I really wish Allicio had retorted to White Chain’s “and then what?” with “Ask Zaid what he wants, and try to give him some agency.”)
i just caught up with this comic after putting it off since the end of the first book. HOLY HANNAH HAS THIS GOTTEN AMAZINGLY GOOD. thank you for the wonderful characters, the gorgeous world and background characters, and the like actually nuanced discussion of gender and sexuality without it just being labels. bravo
i just want to say
i can’t decide who i’d rather be girlfriends with
white chain or allicio
and obvs a poly relationship after this smack down will be awkward
I wonder how the angelic technique compares to Solomon’s one-punch-man school? I mean, the angels _were_ beaten by humans, way back when when they first invaded Throne…
I just finished reading the entire comic to date. What a great read! Please don’t let this go unfinished! It would make for a great series as well. The lore alone is worth the updates.
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JoJo reference
I can totally see White Chain shouting “Useless! Useless! Useless!”
Fist of the North Star, young demiurge.
No, Open Palm is North Star, sound effects and all, but this? This barrage of closed-fisted punches that expand beyond the attacker’s breadth?
This is a Jojo.
ORORORORORORO
This looks like its gonna hurt. Badass drawing by the way. First time I have commented. Just wanted to say I love this comic.
YuYu Hakusho?
ATATATATATATATATATA!
Why use one fist when 20 will do?
I count 25. At least.
Send in another wave.
“We have reserves.”
I count 29, but I’ve been wrong about these things before
Blackbeard: I lost count at 40.
We JoJo now
We have, are, and always will be Jojo.
The secret is knowing that, on some level, everything is Jojo.
oh
you mean
Jojo is
in a way
ZA WARUDO !?
Actually Yusuke used to say that before JoJo.
The Stardust Crusaders manga (89) came before the Yu Yu Hakusho manga (90). But yelling ORA like that is usually a delinquent/yankee thing. It has a number of meanings, but the way delinquents use it can mean anything from “It’s time!” to “Look here!” to “What the fuck?!”, depending on the context. There’s some old bosozoku (motorcycle delinquent) videos from the 90s and 80s on Youtube, and you’ll notice that they yell ORA as a challenge, while hitting people, and to amp each other up.
Basically, both Yusuke and Jotaro are delinquents, so they both yell “ORA”. It belongs to neither of them.
So what you’re saying is that “ORA” is sorta like “yo!”
Hey, hey! Whoo!
Shamona.
YOU ARE ALREADY BANISHED.
The only thing that beats un Angel is un other angel. LEAVING US!!!
How *has* White Chain managed to die 81 times? Asking for a friend.
Better question: what sorts of badass monsters must exist that a badass like White Chain died 81 times to them?
… how old is White Chain?
Overall? Roughly as old as humanity, Demons, and Servants have existed.
This reincarnation? White chain still currently holds the record for most reincarnations of any angel we have seen. They are, thus, quite young for an angel.
She’s a liquid angel, I think, which shows her age. I think that refers to the age of her current incarnation, but I’m not sure. Vapor and Plasma angels are both younger. So she’s middle of the road, erring on the younger side.
To be precise, the most reincarnations of any angel *due to falling in battle in defense of Throne*.
Theoretically, other angels may have fallen more often , but White Chain has fallen in the line of duty, in the defense of The City at the center of the Multiverse, more often than any other.
Abbadon confirms that
That some Jack Kirby shit right there
Needs more dots/crackle.
Hey Abbadon, have you been planning this from the moment you introduced the goofy helmet that partially opens up when in Combat Mode? Because I see what you did there.
Also I really love the nuance of the different expressions on White Chain’s two faces… Her armor’s face shows anger hardened by determination, while her soul flame’s face shows anger tinged with grief. I don’t think White Chain’s will is as focused as she thinks it is…
Allicio isn’t the only one of two minds here.
One does not so much punch an unbound devil as blow it apart and disperse it with overwhelming repeated strikes by cold flame.
White Chain’s pulling out the 100% Full Cowling, I see
Pretty close to Normal Consecutive Punches, as well, but she’s going to have be able to do so a lot more casually to hit Saitama tier.
IT WAS A STAAANNDD BATTTTLLLE!
Unless she hits the deck. Real fast.
The spectators are definitely getting their money’s worth.
[Stand User] White Chain
[Stand Name] Angel of The Morning
Alternatively: Kung-Fu Fighting.
So that makes Allisson’s stand Chop Suey?
[Stand User] 82 White Chain Returns To Subdue Evil
[Stand Name] Wish I Had An Angel
You have seen an unbound devil, now are you ready for
We know Zoss destroyed the prime angels. I think this battle is not so decided
^This, and that was before he had the key, but also, we’ve seen her use Aesma’s Heel, and Aesma is the one who picked up the wheel itself to beat up her jerk of a husband.
Zoss was also a learned man and The first mortal to break the gates of Heaven open. He was Royalty. Then he made the Magus Gates. A sword doesn’t mean too much unless you know how to use it.
would’ve been smart to save this for when she really needed to fight other enemies. . . but hey; being manipulated to fight your pupil is more important lol
there is no part of the battle more important, climactic, or inevitable than the duel of pupil against master.
the shared enemy is an afterthought, and best treated as such.
Owae ma
White Chain has gone full Lateralus
I hate to see the Schism between White Chain and Allicio, but I know the pieces’ll fit back together somehow.
White Chain has been clearly overthing and overanalyzing because the mind separated from the body.
Thank you for sharing this thought, that’s a really interesting interpretation and I wouldn’t have thought of it but I think it’s incredibly fitting, especially with an above comment somewhere saying how White Chain’s two expressions appear distinct.
On reflection, I wouldn’t be surprised if Allicio ends up holding a grudge given White Chain’s current less-than patient disposition
“Oh, you’re approaching me?”
“I can’t beat the sense into you without coming closer!”
Let my fire burn my enemy.
If it shall not burn my enemy, let creation be turned alight.
For in all that lives, YISUN exhaled a being of fiery nature, and I am an Angel. I am far more than living.
– unnamed nuclear explosion in an armor suit
omae wa mou shindeiru
Nani?
*explodes*
Tatatatatatata!
Never play pool with the one who taught you
I think my latent psychic powers are awakening, I knew exactly what the mouseover text was going to be in advance…
I wonder, is that even her final form?
Obviously not. But her full super-nova form can’t be acquired outside the Void
Spectral light with sour taste
blended colours go to waste
what should be white is murky, laced.
Zoinks Scoob, I think that’s gonna hurt…
Maybe Alison will have to use 1% of her power.
Here we go. :sigh: Still crossing my fingers Allicio comes out on top.
I think this is a very violent transition for White Chain. If her stone body breaks, she will have to learn to live as her female self.
You are partly correct, I think. However, it is her stone body, her anchor to the realm of existence–of creation, of humanity–that gives her a female appearance. Banishment to the Void as the result of its destruction would cut her off from this.
I regard her use of the full angelic arsenal as a very grave matter. It is, in a way, a betrayal of what she once held almost dearly.
Her astral form has been reshaped, by her long sojourn in Throne.
Too much time among humans has taught her what change is. Only death and the corrupting influence of infinity can help her forget.
Considering White Chain uses devil-banishing technique that is highly self destructive, two of Allison’s friends are gonna end up in the void with their mask/armor in pieces… which will leave her alone after the fight. Oh no alone with normal-dude-Zaid which is definitely worse
How could you forget our two ancillary friends so easily?! A certain Red Devil and mechanic will not be very pleased…
And on that note, I choose to believe our Zaid has used his endless hours as the captive and pawn of the Seven Rulers of the Multiverse to focus on self-care and self-improvement, ultimately becoming a sexier, more muscular, more compassionate human being.
Well, two out of three ain’t bad.
Yeah this is not really going anywhere at this point, it’s just a “My Power is Bigger than Yours” context
it’s like watching Naruto
Points for truth.
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA!!!!!
Come now, stop beating about the bush and say what you really mean.
Why not kill 6 billion angels instead? Looks like they are easily manipulated and have critical thinking skills of a 4 years old anyway.
I stand behind this vote. Angels are a thing of the past anyhow, gotta recycle them into useful things.
Why not kill one angel, six billion times?
6,000,000,082 White Chain Born in Emptiness Returns to Subdue Evil it is, then!
Brilliant
When a planting goes wild, climbing beyond its intended bed, or growing along a different path, many gardeners attempt to prune their stray back to a nub and try again.
Though White Chain has tended Allison with intent and determination, she has not tended her with thought and care. It would behoove this aeon to recall, though, that Royalty is by its nature unwilling to be subject to the cutting of others.
Guess there’s no more use talking
Au contraire
7 page MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA incoming
Blather, wince, repeat.
the positioning of white chain’s wing blocking that punch is extremely phallic and considering white chain’s gender issues and how they tie back to her loyalty to the angels, that’s probably intentional.
i hope she survives to regret this.
Angels can’t die. She will have all eternity to regret this. Personally, I hope she comes to her senses before that.
Cockblock?
Wow White Chain… way to show your true colors.
You couldn’t pull this shit to clear the field, to actually assist Allison, but you could manifest in this manner for the purposes of ENDING her?
There’s a reference in there somewhere…probably. Nah I must be imaginin things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
White Chain may well have fought devilskin warriors before, and probably things even worse. (Didn’t Abbadon say that Angels used that martial arts of theirs against minor GODS?) Allicio looks worried and with reason. For all her potential power, she is no match yet for an angel going all-out to defeat her. Unless Cio (Who had a piece of a Key for a while, so she must know more about them than Allison) comes up with some trick, it looks like this really might be a repeat of the Allison/Yabalcio fight, with White Chain winnin and only then realizing what she has done. At least WC doesn’t WANT to kill Allicio. I don’t think. No.
The power of my stand, [HEAVEN IS A PLACE ON EARTH]
I am beginning to suspect that White Chain is jobbing right now and we’re about to find out just how far apart in power Alison/Alicio is from Salami Dave
Prediction:
White chain annihilates Alicio breaking Cio’s mask in the process (Krayu Mat has been described as a demon banishing technique).
Alison subsequently uses the key in a great act of will to either:
A) Create, reforging Cio’s mask. White Chain realises it is mistaken about Alison but not before its body is consumed by Krayu Mat flinging it back into the void.
B) Destroy, White Chain’s physical body. Alison goes into a rage overwhelming White Chain despite Krayu Mat therefor proving herself worthy of Royalty while also laying some harsh truths down for White Chain
Either way White Chain finds itself in the void for a bit of soul searching and returns to a brand new (physical) body that more accurately (and fabulously) reflects her true form
It seems… that I have returned to the front lines. Soon I will be called away again, but it is good to be back, and what a time for it!
Why use “it” for our fine and noble sister/sibling White Chain? I find it disrespectful.
When an angel, a sexless being, is following the LAW as a robot would its programming what other pronoun would one use? Doubly so when it’s actions are in base in denial of their innermost beliefs
Also, if this is intended as a reply to my previous post please note the deliberate pronoun use in the final line
It implies an object. They is a more appropriate pronoun that is gender neutral.
Precisely. ‘It’ been more a reference here to one without will, an automata, then a PC-less gafe of a gender substitute. But please continue to educate me on the travails of this world and why it means so much to you that you must transfer the baggage here.
Yes, it was meant as a reply. I was sure I clicked reply on your comment.
In all fairness, you have a point and I did not notice your shift of pronoun, but it still seems… mean to me to call a character “it.” I am not badly upset, but I do feel like commenting on it because it annoys me a little. It might annoy others much more…
Oh shit… shes a rock human
I know this is an old thought, but it’s still nagging. This is an old story. Biblically old. We have a (stone cold) angel who thinks his/her (Zoss) god has made a big mistake and has decided it’s up to him/her to fix the mistake by eliminating it/her/humans from creation.
Is there going to be a casting-down from Supreme arrogance and a creation of an appropriate Hell?
K6BD epic reveal: Allison fails, and is revealed to not be the true heir. But neither is Zaid. The true heir of Zoss is Number 1, the red imp from Chapter 2.
True heir is monky eating fruit
True heir is Cat Man thief, obvs.
This sort of all-out full frontal assault makes me wonder whether Al-ys-Un has in any way practiced her ability to teleport herself (much less ships containing all of her krewe) quickly on demand.
I mean, that would seem like a worthy power to master, given that teleporting away has been a great get-out-of-jail free card for her in a couple of situations (even if in one of them she was pushed by Cio).
Can’t imagine any martial art which wouldn’t benefit from the ability to teleport out from in front of your enemies alpha strike and behind their undefended back.
Parley’s ‘Unsichtbarhau’!
White Chain has forsaken the path of the Empty Palm for the Closed Fist. Likewise, Allicio has not thrown an empty palm once in her admittedly short life, while of her components, Cio is famously hot tempered (she is black flame corporeal), and Allison only open-handed one strike in the whole tournament (the bird). Even when she called out ‘Empty Palm Crushes the Deceitful’, she through a closed fist. She only remembered and tried to practice the Trigram Mantra once, immediately before Cio arrived.
Both of our combatants here are direly in need of reflecting on the Trigram Mantra. Our devilskin warrior will have difficulty (if I’m doing my math right, her soul has an effective 1.5 black flame to .5 white flame composition), but our angel, cold as their flames are said to be, seems equally hot-headed and head-full.
Maybe if they can burn off some of that anger, they’ll be in a better state to reflect on what they actually want and what is preventing them from actualizing that.
(I really wish Allicio had retorted to White Chain’s “and then what?” with “Ask Zaid what he wants, and try to give him some agency.”)
Frustration with White Chain aside, it kinda rules that shes’s using her God Thousand-Fist Cannon
i just caught up with this comic after putting it off since the end of the first book. HOLY HANNAH HAS THIS GOTTEN AMAZINGLY GOOD. thank you for the wonderful characters, the gorgeous world and background characters, and the like actually nuanced discussion of gender and sexuality without it just being labels. bravo
i just want to say
i can’t decide who i’d rather be girlfriends with
white chain or allicio
and obvs a poly relationship after this smack down will be awkward
I wonder how the angelic technique compares to Solomon’s one-punch-man school? I mean, the angels _were_ beaten by humans, way back when when they first invaded Throne…
Whoah! White Chain’s tail fin busted a 180!
Allison! Behold my stand, 「Fallen Angel」!
Everyone out here making Jojo references, meanwhile Im hearing Silver Bullet while reading this
How long can White Chain keep this up before she disintegrates?
Allicio may yet survive intact (more or less).
White Chain? More like Off The Chain! A multitude (multiverse?) of possible outcomes abound, but one thing is for sure:
The fewmets are soon to hit the windmill!
I can’t unsee Alicio’s arm as some kind of blue missile launched out of White Chain’s groin. A blue angelic dick missile.
I just finished reading the entire comic to date. What a great read! Please don’t let this go unfinished! It would make for a great series as well. The lore alone is worth the updates.
I’ve been wracking my brain on where i’ve seen that before. That’s a devil trigger.
This is a good post. This post gives truly quality information. I’m definitely going to look into it. Really very useful tips are provided here. Thank you so much. Keep up the good works.