I feel like just saying jadis is manipulating her seems to miss the point of her charachter. Jadis already knows the outcome, knows that Allison won’t give up. She sees past and future all at once. She sees every instance of Allison’s suffering from every angle, and of every second of it. I think the whole point is that while jadis is obviously a master of illusions, she speaks to Allison with utmost sincerity, a contrast. as we’ve seen, all the demiurges have mortal wills and feelings, and flaws, that they cannot escape from. Despite jadis knowing the outcome of this, she indulges in her attempt to halt Allison’s suffering, even if it’s misguided or doomed to fail. Her flaw is one that chose her, it is the loss of will that permits her omnipotence, unlike her siblings that would have fought fate, and thus could not be allowed to weild the visions of the wheel in full. In the end all she can do is offer Allison the same answer she came to.
If Jadis can get Allison to give up finally, Jadis might talk her into a body swap. Allison gets to do nothing in the wasted body in the ice cube, and to die there soon. Jadis gets Allison’s body with the key pre-installed.
Those who keep insisting that Jadis is contradicting herself have taken leave of their ability to read.
Even discarding the oft-repeated assurance of her omniscience, such that she takes a preset sequence of actions and words, The Lady of Infinite Repose has already stated that, for Alice, the illusion of free will is intact, and as such, she can indeed make choices on her own behalf, or at the very least feel like she does at a personal scale.
Unless she is lying, of course. I do believe that Jadis is all-knowing, but nowhere in that prerogative is the requirement of being all-truthful. Which would be a truly Divine turn of events.
And if she is not – the knowing of things evidently does not make one immune to sorrow. One cannot be a Demiurge without frightful amounts of sorrow, after all, Bearer or no Bearer.
I wonder… when Jadis first saw infinity, it must have already accounted for the fact that Jadis would see it. This does mean she can use her omniscience for personal gain – not by changing the future, but because the future was always already affected by her omniscience. Otherwise, she would try to change the course of events. Everything should go exactly as Jadis wants it to go, but only within the limits of her power. This is a paradox, of course.
I also wonder now after washing my dishes if she’s patiently annoying the heck outta Allison just to make her want to say something like GO AWAY OR ELSE I’LL MAKE YOU.
After all, a little bit of character and initiative is necessary to start things up, specially when you don’t want
I feel like just saying jadis is manipulating her seems to miss the point of her charachter. Jadis already knows the outcome, knows that Allison won’t give up. She sees past and future all at once. She sees every instance of Allison’s suffering from every angle, and of every second of it. I think the whole point is that while jadis is obviously a master of illusions, she speaks to Allison with utmost sincerity, a contrast. as we’ve seen, all the demiurges have mortal wills and feelings, and flaws, that they cannot escape from. Despite jadis knowing the outcome of this, she indulges in her attempt to halt Allison’s suffering, even if it’s misguided or doomed to fail. Her flaw is one that chose her, it is the loss of will that permits her omnipotence, unlike her siblings that would have fought fate, and thus could not be allowed to weild the visions of the wheel in full. In the end all she can do is offer Allison the same answer she came to.
The absence of alt text somehow makes this feel even sadder.
There are two pages here, and the first has the alt-text of “that terrible weight”, in following with the previous page’s alt-text of “The Weight”.
Oh Jadis, one must imagine Sisyphus to be happy.
Anhedonia, no one’s favourite part of clinical depression!
gaze into jadis’ H-cups & feel the meaning of despair
Trying to get the key by driving Allison to despair is certainly more interesting than any of the other attempts so far.
If Jadis can get Allison to give up finally, Jadis might talk her into a body swap. Allison gets to do nothing in the wasted body in the ice cube, and to die there soon. Jadis gets Allison’s body with the key pre-installed.
Those who keep insisting that Jadis is contradicting herself have taken leave of their ability to read.
Even discarding the oft-repeated assurance of her omniscience, such that she takes a preset sequence of actions and words, The Lady of Infinite Repose has already stated that, for Alice, the illusion of free will is intact, and as such, she can indeed make choices on her own behalf, or at the very least feel like she does at a personal scale.
Unless she is lying, of course. I do believe that Jadis is all-knowing, but nowhere in that prerogative is the requirement of being all-truthful. Which would be a truly Divine turn of events.
And if she is not – the knowing of things evidently does not make one immune to sorrow. One cannot be a Demiurge without frightful amounts of sorrow, after all, Bearer or no Bearer.
Exactly. She knows exactly what words she must say for events to progress in the way that they do. The words don’t have to be true.
I wonder… when Jadis first saw infinity, it must have already accounted for the fact that Jadis would see it. This does mean she can use her omniscience for personal gain – not by changing the future, but because the future was always already affected by her omniscience. Otherwise, she would try to change the course of events. Everything should go exactly as Jadis wants it to go, but only within the limits of her power. This is a paradox, of course.
*squint*
wait, if none of Allison’s choices matter, then *why is Jadis so insistent on telling Allison to give up*.
Trying to pose as the Superego huh
She needs to face infinitude.
She needs to look upon it in its totality.
She needs to cut.
That is Royalty.
I also wonder now after washing my dishes if she’s patiently annoying the heck outta Allison just to make her want to say something like GO AWAY OR ELSE I’LL MAKE YOU.
After all, a little bit of character and initiative is necessary to start things up, specially when you don’t want
“I just want to lie here.”
“You are making progress.”
Well… Jadis IS the SLOTH Demiurge…
Ok yes, you are correct, but also (and more importantly) Allison didnt want to do anything previously.
it’s the WANTING not the laying here that’s the progress <3
I have caught up with the comic and now I am sad I still haven’t gotten over white chain dying moments after she truly discovered herself
Been there, done that. anhedonia fucking sucks.
The average comic would make this page about THICCNESS.
This comic, on the other hand, makes it about sad.
Does Jadis think that being that big will help Alison?
“Ey you! Yeah you! Ghost or Illusion or whateva! Take a hike!”
“begone, thot!”
Fuck I feel this so much as someone with chronic depression
Taker of joy, silencer of mirth, fear the unseen blade that cuts from heart to mind for it quells the flame of life with its passing