Consider also: His wardrobe is similarly modern. But as you allude, it could be an effect of the dream, or perhaps he can see preferences and desires, and changes to match.
I think it’s more Incubus effecting how Allison perceives him. As in Allison’s mind cannot truly comprehend Incubus, but it senses that Incubus is some uber-powerful lust god and conjures an image that is attractive to Allison. This is why he looks like something out of a bad Twilight fanfiction. His speech patterns are also modified to be as attractive and relatable as possible.
I’m thinkin, since Incubus is associated with lust and seduction, he would take the form most comfortable or pleasing to the viewer’s eye. It could just be Allison’s confusion, but my guess is that’s why she first thought he was Zaid.
Welp, whatever Incubus is doing, it’s workin’ on me, too xD
Be ware of limiting, For Incubus is not merely shallow lust, but a Luminary of Desires; they that sits before the Master of Aesthetic and learned of that wisdom, the art of Want and Need – to know them, to use them, to wield them as a needle and thread is used by a surgeon, sealing into a living body the designs of the doctor, eternally a part, without which one may not live. Be ware of their words, their touch, thoughts and dreams, for their needle is so thin, their hands so skilled, that you shall never know that they have placed in you that dread consumption, until it is already too late. Jagganath will merely obliterate you from existences, Incubus will twist you until you are the antithesis of yourself, a betrayal of all you were, and make this horror of yourself the memory that shall hold eternal, all because They want to.
Going into dreams means delving into people’s minds, I think he’s communicating in this kind of informal English because that’s how Allison communicates, he’s likely plucking all of these details right out of her brain. His appearance totally backs this, there’s no way saggy skinny jeans are a thing in Throne.
Bah. The obsession ith this guy being who ~haaaas~ to be the heir… theres something ive noted. In universe, people-the characters- making the same mistake people do in real life. A neutral gender description is a ‘male’. The angels claim to be genderless but are he, brother, etc…
The prophecy doesn’t SPECIFY a gender so it must be a male. Odd for people who know the creator to be all and many things! But I appreciate a story so fast to fence holes in the ideas <3
I also appreciate Xir Lord Open Shirt. So say a child of Lady Aesma, finest of all pupils, worst of the worst~
I doubt he would be a child of Pree Aesma, as she is far too impatient for the art of seduction. It is easier by far to simply demand someone do as your desire, or force it by brute strength, then to play with something as fickle as free will.
All humans are the children of Aesma, she forged them in an attempt to steal some of Hanza’s thunder, after he created the Servant Races and the Angels.
Exactly. A detail im terribly fond of; especialy since it indicates so much about humans role in this story. Another of Asmas terrible ideas! But presumably, like her, humans *strive*.
I was wondering what I missed when all the baddies kept saying Zaid was the successor. Hooray. I’d wonder if it wasn’t ‘default gender’ as much as the king & his heir will have same gender, equal-ish number of each gender at the table, the thorn angel who grabbed Zaid didn’t see anyone else in the room, thorn angel purposely grabbed the wrong one, etc etc
And I think we know the successor’s white and black fires now.
Incubus is using her mind to show the most appealing form. He’s abandoned a less pleasant illusion for that of dream. Knowing the truth I can’t but imagine that he’ll try to use her as a cat’s paw. I appreciate the lord of lust realizing the truth of the matter before the others.
Ah, Incubus finally shows his face. And in a dream, no less? Interesting that he has that ability. One wonders what else he might be able to do that the others cannot..
Behold, ruler of one-seventh of all creation: Vyvyan Basterd! Albeit with a somewhat effeminate makeover, but one cannot be expected to keep their 80’s look for all time.
Of all the Seven, Incubus may be the first and last willing to allow change, for boredom is a bane to Desire, and playing with a new Demiurge would surely be more interesting, than the pallid machinations of the other Seven, whom They have mastered (at least to the degree They desired to – perfect mastery, is, of course, even less interesting)
Awwww shiiiiiiit G! Incubus has entered the scene, the Big Bad/BBEG has revealed himself. I’ve been anticipating his appearance since that first page that showed the Demiurges. He really does command this sort of aura of intimidation, I can’t wait to see the scope of his evil.
On another note, it’d be funny if he broke into a stupid dance with jazz music.
Well, he’s ONE of the Big Bads, and since he has appeared first (in accordance with the Principle of Escalating Power), he is likely the weakest of his allies, at least in terms of raw strength. Alternately, he will be the only one of the seven to not immediately attempt to rip the Key out of Allison’s head, and might try to use her as a pawn to eliminate his competition.
I subscribe to the “If the Bad Guy is in the centre of a villain group that means he is the Biggest Bad Guy” and Incubus was right in the middle of the 7 Demiurges when Cio exposited about the keys. Plus he was absent from the Demiurge gathering (I think the figure hidden in the shadows on that secret page who says “Don’t draw it out” is him observing the rest).
I agree that he’d probably wait until Allison killed some of the Demiurges first before acting out.
Teardrops, falling upward like rain in reverse.
When they coalesce into clouds, will they shade us from the harsh light of hardships we face? Or enshroud us in the fog of self-doubt?
Really giving me a Lucifer vibe there, Incubus. Lucifer from El Shaddai the game. Anyone else here ever played that? Well, I guess he’s called Lucifel there, not Lucifer. Was never quite sure if that was just a mistake on the Japanese’s part. There r’s and l’s, you know.
I, uh, think it’s less because sexism (3 out of 7 demiurges are female after all) and more because Janis said “He is the successor”, plus he was captured right as Zoss was (apparently) handing the key to him, simple mistaken identity.
So, Incubus dyes his hair too, huh? Since he seems more and more like he came from a “modern” world like Allison does, I wonder if he was some sort of glam rock superstar.
Apparently some of the 7 were born during the war of the Demiurges. He might have come from an Earth that achieved a level of modernism not unlike our own but faster (since this is an alternate reality).
Yon lord Incubus reminds me a bit of Mike Carey’s Lucifer, what with the emphasis on Will and the not-so-passing resemblance to Pree Stardust Man of the Golden Throat, also known as David Bowie.
It’s a Star King
Come down from the sky
He says he wants to help us
Though he will not say just why
He’s a Star King
Descending from the sky
He has some strange agenda
And he can read our minds
He told me
You should learn to use it
You don’t need to prove it
I know you can do it
Violence can take many forms, as was demonstrated by Yis and Un in their meeting days. Those who reach heaven by one are no less fearsome than by another.
Cio, Incubus, it seems Allison will have no shortage of questionably intentioned mentors who think she’s really hot. Of course, I’m working on the assumption that if you’re named Incubus you probably want to bone everything.
Is Incubus’s modern sounding lingo just a ruse or is he really that modern? It could also be Alice’s dreamscape that somehow effects Incubus…
Consider also: His wardrobe is similarly modern. But as you allude, it could be an effect of the dream, or perhaps he can see preferences and desires, and changes to match.
Consider: If he’s capable of dreamwalking across time and space, he has probably already seen a lot of modern jargon from our universe.
I think it’s more Incubus effecting how Allison perceives him. As in Allison’s mind cannot truly comprehend Incubus, but it senses that Incubus is some uber-powerful lust god and conjures an image that is attractive to Allison. This is why he looks like something out of a bad Twilight fanfiction. His speech patterns are also modified to be as attractive and relatable as possible.
I’m thinkin, since Incubus is associated with lust and seduction, he would take the form most comfortable or pleasing to the viewer’s eye. It could just be Allison’s confusion, but my guess is that’s why she first thought he was Zaid.
Welp, whatever Incubus is doing, it’s workin’ on me, too xD
I, The 12th Shining Aspect of YISUN who ever questions reality, Am too attracted the glory of Incubus.
She didn’t think Incubus was Zaid, she was simply confirming who he meant when he refered to “that boy”.
Be ware of limiting, For Incubus is not merely shallow lust, but a Luminary of Desires; they that sits before the Master of Aesthetic and learned of that wisdom, the art of Want and Need – to know them, to use them, to wield them as a needle and thread is used by a surgeon, sealing into a living body the designs of the doctor, eternally a part, without which one may not live. Be ware of their words, their touch, thoughts and dreams, for their needle is so thin, their hands so skilled, that you shall never know that they have placed in you that dread consumption, until it is already too late. Jagganath will merely obliterate you from existences, Incubus will twist you until you are the antithesis of yourself, a betrayal of all you were, and make this horror of yourself the memory that shall hold eternal, all because They want to.
She didn’t think he was Zaid, she was asking to clarify ‘him’ as in ‘give the key to him’.
Not just the lingo. The clothes too. It might be he’s taking on a form that he thinks might work on Allison.
Who is to say that all universes are as backwards as Throne? Maybe he just kept his fashion sense.
Going into dreams means delving into people’s minds, I think he’s communicating in this kind of informal English because that’s how Allison communicates, he’s likely plucking all of these details right out of her brain. His appearance totally backs this, there’s no way saggy skinny jeans are a thing in Throne.
How do you get a profile picture?
The lord of lust shows his face. Do not submit to his wiles, for his whims are crueler than lord Jagganath’s!
Also, do not dominate them in your wiles. They are into that, and is a master at twisting those who command, most especially when kneeling.
Ah, the seventh makes his appearance
Bah. The obsession ith this guy being who ~haaaas~ to be the heir… theres something ive noted. In universe, people-the characters- making the same mistake people do in real life. A neutral gender description is a ‘male’. The angels claim to be genderless but are he, brother, etc…
The prophecy doesn’t SPECIFY a gender so it must be a male. Odd for people who know the creator to be all and many things! But I appreciate a story so fast to fence holes in the ideas <3
I also appreciate Xir Lord Open Shirt. So say a child of Lady Aesma, finest of all pupils, worst of the worst~
I doubt he would be a child of Pree Aesma, as she is far too impatient for the art of seduction. It is easier by far to simply demand someone do as your desire, or force it by brute strength, then to play with something as fickle as free will.
All humans are the children of Aesma, she forged them in an attempt to steal some of Hanza’s thunder, after he created the Servant Races and the Angels.
That was Un-Koss not Hansa that created the races. Hansa is a grumpy god of old people and smoking from a pipe.
Exactly. A detail im terribly fond of; especialy since it indicates so much about humans role in this story. Another of Asmas terrible ideas! But presumably, like her, humans *strive*.
I was wondering what I missed when all the baddies kept saying Zaid was the successor. Hooray. I’d wonder if it wasn’t ‘default gender’ as much as the king & his heir will have same gender, equal-ish number of each gender at the table, the thorn angel who grabbed Zaid didn’t see anyone else in the room, thorn angel purposely grabbed the wrong one, etc etc
And I think we know the successor’s white and black fires now.
You want this? Yeesh, date rape.
Incubus is using her mind to show the most appealing form. He’s abandoned a less pleasant illusion for that of dream. Knowing the truth I can’t but imagine that he’ll try to use her as a cat’s paw. I appreciate the lord of lust realizing the truth of the matter before the others.
Ok, i’m really geneunely concerned about Incubus wants out of this interaction.
Remember Allison, the beast has SEVEN heads!
Relevant: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=384
Love the Phallic earrings
So eighties.
Ah, Incubus finally shows his face. And in a dream, no less? Interesting that he has that ability. One wonders what else he might be able to do that the others cannot..
…I can now only think of the Venture Brothers episode with the alien that yells “IGNORE ME!” at everyone. -.-
I’m glad someone else saw it. “THAT WAS A WEIRD ONE!”
Behold, ruler of one-seventh of all creation: Vyvyan Basterd! Albeit with a somewhat effeminate makeover, but one cannot be expected to keep their 80’s look for all time.
One of the seven knows the truth.
This changes things considerably.
Of all the Seven, Incubus may be the first and last willing to allow change, for boredom is a bane to Desire, and playing with a new Demiurge would surely be more interesting, than the pallid machinations of the other Seven, whom They have mastered (at least to the degree They desired to – perfect mastery, is, of course, even less interesting)
Awwww shiiiiiiit G! Incubus has entered the scene, the Big Bad/BBEG has revealed himself. I’ve been anticipating his appearance since that first page that showed the Demiurges. He really does command this sort of aura of intimidation, I can’t wait to see the scope of his evil.
On another note, it’d be funny if he broke into a stupid dance with jazz music.
Well, he’s ONE of the Big Bads, and since he has appeared first (in accordance with the Principle of Escalating Power), he is likely the weakest of his allies, at least in terms of raw strength. Alternately, he will be the only one of the seven to not immediately attempt to rip the Key out of Allison’s head, and might try to use her as a pawn to eliminate his competition.
Ah, but you are quite backwards: He is the /last/ to appear. To us, at least. Recall he was nowhere to be found at the Concordance of the Demiurges.
Of course, one must remember we have yet to see Mammon at all. He will be the last we see, if we see him at all.
I subscribe to the “If the Bad Guy is in the centre of a villain group that means he is the Biggest Bad Guy” and Incubus was right in the middle of the 7 Demiurges when Cio exposited about the keys. Plus he was absent from the Demiurge gathering (I think the figure hidden in the shadows on that secret page who says “Don’t draw it out” is him observing the rest).
I agree that he’d probably wait until Allison killed some of the Demiurges first before acting out.
Teardrops, falling upward like rain in reverse.
When they coalesce into clouds, will they shade us from the harsh light of hardships we face? Or enshroud us in the fog of self-doubt?
Really giving me a Lucifer vibe there, Incubus. Lucifer from El Shaddai the game. Anyone else here ever played that? Well, I guess he’s called Lucifel there, not Lucifer. Was never quite sure if that was just a mistake on the Japanese’s part. There r’s and l’s, you know.
Really? Just the bottom button? Trying a little hard, aren’t we Incy?
Though I suppose a Demiurge can set his own fashion. Like a ponse.
Little difficult following the intended flow of conversation on the last page.
I, uh, think it’s less because sexism (3 out of 7 demiurges are female after all) and more because Janis said “He is the successor”, plus he was captured right as Zoss was (apparently) handing the key to him, simple mistaken identity.
Doubtlessly evil beyond imagining and playing our heroine for a fool but… yes, this one can stay. This one can most definitely stay.
So, Incubus dyes his hair too, huh? Since he seems more and more like he came from a “modern” world like Allison does, I wonder if he was some sort of glam rock superstar.
Apparently some of the 7 were born during the war of the Demiurges. He might have come from an Earth that achieved a level of modernism not unlike our own but faster (since this is an alternate reality).
Yon lord Incubus reminds me a bit of Mike Carey’s Lucifer, what with the emphasis on Will and the not-so-passing resemblance to Pree Stardust Man of the Golden Throat, also known as David Bowie.
Was thinking this too! Plus the flowy trencoat thing reminds me of John Constantine.
It’s a Star King
Come down from the sky
He says he wants to help us
Though he will not say just why
He’s a Star King
Descending from the sky
He has some strange agenda
And he can read our minds
He told me
You should learn to use it
You don’t need to prove it
I know you can do it
Actually I was getting a more “Desire from Sandman” sort of deal going on.
I wonder what it would be like if s/he got in a poseoff with Desire.
Celestial smooth-talker in nice clothes? One is reminded of Lucifel from El Shaddai.
Violence can take many forms, as was demonstrated by Yis and Un in their meeting days. Those who reach heaven by one are no less fearsome than by another.
Thoughts for the modern noble:
Never be distracted my a Lords body for his eyes will always betray him first.
Cio, Incubus, it seems Allison will have no shortage of questionably intentioned mentors who think she’s really hot. Of course, I’m working on the assumption that if you’re named Incubus you probably want to bone everything.
It may not be that Incubus wants to bone everything, so much as everything wants to bone Incubus.