~ Comment attributed to Madame de Pompadour, Chief Mistress to King Louis XV of France after the disastrous defeat of French forces at the Battle of Rossbach, 1751.
I suppose this question applies equally to all of the demiurges who fought in the universal war, but what does Jagganoth actually WANT? To conquer the universe, sure, and then what? Sit around on a big throne of skulls, for all time? What exactly is your endgame here, Big Red?
To finish lobotomizing himself on the path of Royalty. My impression of the demiurges is that continuing the path of Royalty or continually refining the blade of Want results in increasingly focused monomania and reduced creativity. I think to actually reach the end of the path you have to cut away everything except your desire for power at which you have practical omnipotence but no desire to use it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Jagganoth doesn’t remember why he wants the universe anymore, if he was just planning on conquering it for something to do or if it was because he has a life ethos of “never settle”
For an insane amalgamation of worms that think themselves a goddess(Or, maybe, an insane goddess that thinks herself to be an amalgamation of worms) of one seventh of the wheel, Gog-Agog is adorable.
I suspect at this point that Incubus got his key(s) and his throne when the previous holder said, “Screw this, I’m retiring to go drink” and gave them to him.
The other demiurges, having ripped theirs from the skulls of fallen foes, regard him as an unproven upstart.
The exact circumstances behind Gog Agog accquiring the key haven’t been revealed at this point.
It’s possible that Gog Agog got it from some maggots eating a corpse or something. But considering that a key wouldn’t have stayed unclaimed for long during the Universial War, it’s hard to see that happening. Gog Agogs origin story will be interesting for sure.
Besides being a “literal walking tragedy”, Gog had a significant other at some point, so she was probably a person before she became worms. I would guess she died and the worms “inherited” her key along with her psyche.
Perhaps the distinction is not in how he got his key at all? It could instead be a matter of whether he he took part in the battle that toppled Zoss from his throne, or merely took the place of one of those combatants once they abandoned their stake of the seven-part world.
If only I could be among those who follow my Lord Mammon, whom I still worship despite my impoverished state, into the hallowed killing halls of the Concordance! Perhaps if I were still a regional manager, my marble-hewn countenance would grace the panels of this holy webcomic. Surely I would be a moderating influence in the debates between my God and His inferiors, and through my masterful command of all trade languages I would help the usurpers realize how miniscule they are compared to Mammon, even the Red Guy himself!
But alas, I cannot enter the Divine Concordance. I cannot even access the top floor of this tower. And after my altercation with a cruel and foolish Thorn Knight, I cannot even stand up at all.
Is it just me, or does Incubus seem kind of infirm when not appearing in Allison’s dreams? I mean, the robes obscure a lot, but the tremor lines and hand braced against his sword as he sits makes me think that he might be a terribly unimpressive specimen under them.
I thought the lines were just from him sitting down, but yes, combined with the fact that he uses his sword as a cane, he does appear, well, old and frail.
His strength appears to be through mind games and manipulation rather than feats of strength or magic, as evidenced by the people on his world acting like drug addicts. So, it makes some sense that he wouldn’t be much of a physical specimen.
I don’t doubt that he could hold his own against any of the other demiurges if he had to, he wouldn’t be there if any of them could easily take him down.
Gog-Agog reminds me a little of Shivering Jemmy of the Shallow Brigade, Princess of Chaos: Cute and silly, but potentially horrific. Her entourage is only clownish at first glance.
A God who was but a man is still a man, only even more petty and voracious. That is why we have the word “godlike.” A rare piece of wisdom from a friend.
Whatever method Incubus uses, it’s somewhere in between Mottom and Solomon. He’s escaped the worst ravages of old age, but still appears quite old and somewhat infirm.
Mammon meanwhile is naturally immortal, but not completely exempt from the ravages of old age. Gog Agog is some kind of worm hivemind whose individual members might not be immortal and are constantly replenished.
>Page description is called “The Blade”
>Book is named King of Swords
>Jadis’ prophecy in book 1 mentions Alice having ‘The Blade of Want’
>Alice materializes what looks like the blade in her dream with Incubus
>Biblical references hint at Solomon dying first
>Imbalance of power will likely get Jagganoth to attack the remaining Demiurges
Feels like this book might get the ball rolling on the 3rd Conquest
Not that I wouldn’t like Mathangi in Incubus’s place, but I really wonder what he did to made the other Demiurges – these people who rule because they’re the ones who managed to take enough power that nobody could stop them, winners of a purely Darwinistic struggle on a transcosmic scale, including the one who specifically invites people to take his crown “if they can” – resent him for “breaking the rules”.
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“Après nous, le déluge”
“After us, the flood”
~ Comment attributed to Madame de Pompadour, Chief Mistress to King Louis XV of France after the disastrous defeat of French forces at the Battle of Rossbach, 1751.
– correction… 1757.
In times of war swords are forged. In times of peace swords are still forged
Aye, it is only in times of cold war when true progress is made and we forge weapons of mass destruction with the potency to shatter the world.
Which happens to be what Jaggy is up to at the moment, I believe~
Indeed, the sword-smiths see peace as a time to forge swords without distraction
I suppose this question applies equally to all of the demiurges who fought in the universal war, but what does Jagganoth actually WANT? To conquer the universe, sure, and then what? Sit around on a big throne of skulls, for all time? What exactly is your endgame here, Big Red?
if we are to believe Mottom, he wants to unmake the universe.
“he really could do it, you know?”
He could accomplish the same subjective effect with a lot less effort by unmaking himself.
Many are the worms who refuse to bear witness to the Red God’s boundless compassion and generosity.
And yet he will save them all anyway.
To finish lobotomizing himself on the path of Royalty. My impression of the demiurges is that continuing the path of Royalty or continually refining the blade of Want results in increasingly focused monomania and reduced creativity. I think to actually reach the end of the path you have to cut away everything except your desire for power at which you have practical omnipotence but no desire to use it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Jagganoth doesn’t remember why he wants the universe anymore, if he was just planning on conquering it for something to do or if it was because he has a life ethos of “never settle”
For an insane amalgamation of worms that think themselves a goddess(Or, maybe, an insane goddess that thinks herself to be an amalgamation of worms) of one seventh of the wheel, Gog-Agog is adorable.
I’m afraid nobody cares about your head, Gog. Nothing but nonsense ever comes out of it.
It unsettles me how adorable I find Gog-Agog.
Ah, the legendary Blade of Do Not Want.
The only one to pierce the Armor of Shut Up and Take My Worlds.
Also, applauses for the worldplay.
Anyone else ever consider that its Inky’s Sword that Jagganoth is forging?
Considering that the sword is so big that it would be the equivalent of Incubus wielding a ridiculously huge anime sword, no.
He has his own sword anyway.
Maybe that’s the real reason why Incubus teamed up with Jagganoth! He wanted his giant…sword.
I suspect at this point that Incubus got his key(s) and his throne when the previous holder said, “Screw this, I’m retiring to go drink” and gave them to him.
The other demiurges, having ripped theirs from the skulls of fallen foes, regard him as an unproven upstart.
Well, except for Mammon, who bought his.
The exact circumstances behind Gog Agog accquiring the key haven’t been revealed at this point.
It’s possible that Gog Agog got it from some maggots eating a corpse or something. But considering that a key wouldn’t have stayed unclaimed for long during the Universial War, it’s hard to see that happening. Gog Agogs origin story will be interesting for sure.
Besides being a “literal walking tragedy”, Gog had a significant other at some point, so she was probably a person before she became worms. I would guess she died and the worms “inherited” her key along with her psyche.
Mammon didn’t buy his great big key of 777,777 worlds. He bought the first one, but slaughtered to get the others.
Perhaps the distinction is not in how he got his key at all? It could instead be a matter of whether he he took part in the battle that toppled Zoss from his throne, or merely took the place of one of those combatants once they abandoned their stake of the seven-part world.
Oh damn, it is still just a mask.
If only I could be among those who follow my Lord Mammon, whom I still worship despite my impoverished state, into the hallowed killing halls of the Concordance! Perhaps if I were still a regional manager, my marble-hewn countenance would grace the panels of this holy webcomic. Surely I would be a moderating influence in the debates between my God and His inferiors, and through my masterful command of all trade languages I would help the usurpers realize how miniscule they are compared to Mammon, even the Red Guy himself!
But alas, I cannot enter the Divine Concordance. I cannot even access the top floor of this tower. And after my altercation with a cruel and foolish Thorn Knight, I cannot even stand up at all.
Confirmation of Jaganoth’s word? Not that we expected something else.
(As far as I remember, we’re otherwise missing only Mind and Beast, which would then probably be Jadis and Gog-Agog.)
Is it just me, or does Incubus seem kind of infirm when not appearing in Allison’s dreams? I mean, the robes obscure a lot, but the tremor lines and hand braced against his sword as he sits makes me think that he might be a terribly unimpressive specimen under them.
I thought the lines were just from him sitting down, but yes, combined with the fact that he uses his sword as a cane, he does appear, well, old and frail.
His strength appears to be through mind games and manipulation rather than feats of strength or magic, as evidenced by the people on his world acting like drug addicts. So, it makes some sense that he wouldn’t be much of a physical specimen.
I don’t doubt that he could hold his own against any of the other demiurges if he had to, he wouldn’t be there if any of them could easily take him down.
Gog-Agog reminds me a little of Shivering Jemmy of the Shallow Brigade, Princess of Chaos: Cute and silly, but potentially horrific. Her entourage is only clownish at first glance.
Someone should give Jagganoth a decent forge hammer. What’s he doing, nailing a steel coating to the sword?
A God who was but a man is still a man, only even more petty and voracious. That is why we have the word “godlike.” A rare piece of wisdom from a friend.
So, why is Mottom aging when Solomon David isn’t? Is she that much older, or does she just not breathe properly?
Literally the latter. She supposedly never developed internal techniques, and rather took the “easy” route to stay young.
Whatever method Incubus uses, it’s somewhere in between Mottom and Solomon. He’s escaped the worst ravages of old age, but still appears quite old and somewhat infirm.
Mammon meanwhile is naturally immortal, but not completely exempt from the ravages of old age. Gog Agog is some kind of worm hivemind whose individual members might not be immortal and are constantly replenished.
Does Incubus have as much right to his seat as the others, or is it that they have as little right as he does?
I think he’s cynical enough to have meant the latter.
BUT TRUE DANGER IS I – AKU, THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS!
>Page description is called “The Blade”
>Book is named King of Swords
>Jadis’ prophecy in book 1 mentions Alice having ‘The Blade of Want’
>Alice materializes what looks like the blade in her dream with Incubus
>Biblical references hint at Solomon dying first
>Imbalance of power will likely get Jagganoth to attack the remaining Demiurges
Feels like this book might get the ball rolling on the 3rd Conquest
other demiurges: star-crowned, brows burning with divine fire
me, gog-agog: star-crowned, brow burning with divine snot
Solomon really gives off Thanos vibes. He’s even got a purple theme.
Not that I wouldn’t like Mathangi in Incubus’s place, but I really wonder what he did to made the other Demiurges – these people who rule because they’re the ones who managed to take enough power that nobody could stop them, winners of a purely Darwinistic struggle on a transcosmic scale, including the one who specifically invites people to take his crown “if they can” – resent him for “breaking the rules”.
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