BREAKER OF INFINITES 2-65 to 2-67
Chapter: 2
“And all together, upon the dim dawn of the battlefield, the thin pearlescence of the bloody horizon washing over us – there we heard the clarion. Descending was the armies of the rising king, and behind her a thousand thousand banners. Upon the banners was writ the word YSUN.”
-Unknown, post third conquest
How many cubits are we gonna get here?
hmm. at least two.
Two, no more than two!
KILL (WITH) SIX BILLION CUBITS
↑ This. So much this.
KILL SEVERAL DEMONS
UNLEASH THE CUBITS!!!
BRAVO! WELL STATED
A cubit is a measurement of 18inches so it looks like it’s gonna be a lot
There are many cubits.
I imagine they’d use Royal cubits, no? So an extra palm, 7 not 6. The royal cubit used for the Great Pyramid of Giza for example appears to have been about 20.6″.
I dig Milf Om.
A whole of kitticombotti on this smite, mother fucker.
All of them, from the look of things…
A whole bunch of cubits are coming up.
Ive heard tell it may surpass the nine thousandth cubit
1.21 gigawatts’ worth, I would say.
Infinite
This is no mere cucumber spear, oh no! The girls have all got together and they’re going to give Jaggsy their Special Cucumber Surprise. I’ll bet that makes his eyes water!
I’m hoping for 777.
that’s two
yes… YES
Everybody’s doin’ a brand new dance now
(Come on baby do the locomotion)
I know you’ll get to like it if you give it a chance now
(Come on baby do the locomotion)
My little baby sister can do it with ease
It’s easier than learning your A B C’s
So come on, come on, do the locomotion with me
You gotta swing your hips now
Come on baby, jump up, jump back
Well, I think you got the knack, ohh
Now that you can do it, let’s make a chain now
(Come on baby do the locomotion)
Chug-a chug-a motion like a railway train now
(Come on baby do the locomotion)
Do it nice and easy now don’t lose control
A little bit of rhythm and a lot of soul
So come on, come on, do the locomotion with me
Come on, do the locomotion
Come on, do the locomotion
Come on, do the locomotion
Come on, come on, come on, come on
Move around the floor in a locomotion
(Come on baby do the locomotion)
Do it holding hands if you got the notion
(Come on baby do the loco-motion)
There’s never been a dance that’s so easy to do
It even makes you happy when you’re feeling blue
So come on, come on, do the locomotion with me
You gotta swing your hips now
Come on baby, jump up, jump back
Well, I think you got the knack, ohh
Do the loc, do the loc, do the loco locomotion
(Come on do the locomotion)
Do the loc, do the loc, do the loco locomotion
(Come on, do the locomotion)
Come on baby
All that you can do is come on baby
Come on, come on, come on, come on…
Come on!
You don’t get it!
This spear will reach from Rayuba to the far side of the Wheel and beyond. C- The infinite cubit spear.
here comes the spear train, choo choo
we call this one the “Six Demon Kings and One Supreme Goddess Soul Spear Train.”
Peasant Railgun MK VII initiate!
there is like a 99.85% chance this is a real thing in some edition of d&d and that you are in fact specifically referring to this fact
i am requesting details
It’s a thought experiment based on the fact that readied simple actions are supposed to be completed in six seconds – you have a line of peasants ready an action to retrieve and hand over a simple piece of wood (the example uses a piece of a ladder, which is a cheap source of multiple rounds if you break it apart), with the final peasant readying an action to throw the received length of wood at a target.
If you’re really, really overly literal, this should all occur in six seconds based on how readied actions work at baseline, so if you have a two mile line of peasants you achieve a speed of over 1100mph in order to achieve this. That would obviously obliterate most things, although the writeup ignores that the ‘barrel’ of this railgun is clearly not sturdy enough for the forces involved.
The thing is the peasant rail gun doesn’t work. The item gets passed and travels a GREAT distance in those six seconds, however there are no rules for momentum of passed objects, when the final peasant releases the object, the object has a speed of zero and drops to the ground, or if they throw it it only does the damage that throwing that object would do (likely 1d4).
Due to its poor design there are MANY MANY ways to break 3.x (Pun Pun, jumplomancer, etc), but the peasant railgun was not one of them.
This obviously is ignoring rule zero, but you should ignore it when doing conceptual things like that.
As a DM myself for quite a few years, and seeing the peasant railgun around, my ruling (and the general consensus I’ve seen) is it does indeed traverse that two miles in six seconds, if they all take their turn simultaneously, then it happens in one turn.
However, you are correct, there aren’t very descriptive rules for momentum, falling even reaches a maximum eventually iirc, so the final peasant throws it with their own BaB and str and range increment for improvised weapons, no more, no less.
Now, that said, considering I’m actually allowing them to traverse that distance in that time, it still means you could form a line of peasants long enough (given enough space and dimensions) that meant you could pass a stone faster than the speed of light.
Realistically, there must be a number of peasants that take their actions in the same turn, and therefore there is actually a maximum distance the stone can traverse in six seconds. Somewhere between 6-12 peasants I’d say, so about 30-60 feet.
As far as breaking 3.e or 3.5, you are correct, but at least we don’t have 1800 mph tabaxi like 5e.
Even though flash!tabaxi actually ignores how speed and run and dash are calculated lol.
Talking about how people treat Dash as multiplicative instead of additive despite RAW stating that Dash lets you move up to your movement speed as an action (or bonus action with the correct class features)?
Yes, exactly, dash is additive but everyone thinks it’s multiplicative. You can spend an action to dash, you can even gain additional actions, use the run feat, go faster and take more move actions, but you are just doing 4 moves instead of 2x2x2x2 😛
We just miss the Good Old Days, when Speed bonuses did multiply in wierd ways.
clearly the solution here is to make the wizard/smart characters revolutionize the world by working out the physics of momentum behind the peasant cannon
it turns out that the design of the line and object are fairly important, as is the line not being interrupted before the object is thrown…
Why try to throw the thing? Use a 10ft pole, have them pass it forward in the same position (5ft ahead), and immediately in front of the last peasant is a small ball at the exact height the pole will be. Last peasant receives the pole and, in the process, the pole hits the ball at insane velocity. Even if half of that velocity is lost in the impact (and a bunch of peasants behind it as the pole accelerates at half speed, more than enough to make peasant shishkabob) you still have a linear gun of insane power.
… Although not a rail gun, as technically, those involve magnetism to accelerate the load instead of peasants. Maybe a polegun?
I’m particularly partial to the Immovable Rod. The rules say that once the rod is set, it is immovable, but they don’t specify a reference point. The question becomes “what is it immovable compared to?”
By declaring that it is immovable compared to a star retreating away at greater than light speed, you get a WMD in a stick.
Eh, considering most editions of DND are based on planes or spheres, we don’t have cosmology to do that with. The material plane is that, a plane, flat, and immobile 😛
I think most settings are on a particular planet within the prime material plane, but you may or may not end up on some kind of disc or unlimited flat plane and the stars may or may not be balls of plasma or holes in the sky or both. Consult your GM.
i think it was third edition that had the story about the bard using diplomacy raw to convince everyone the party met that he was the Moon
Thanks for the assist Mom.
Missed chance for “thanks M(ott)om”
Mottom is literally short for Mother Om.
wow really? this is actually a major revelation for me not gonna lie
Read book two, it’s there.
Can’t wait to see Mottom being patched into Allison’s threesome, turning it into a foursome. And then, the other urges and demiurges.
The Seven are One. DA’AT
Did you seriously just make a decent reference to the seven lower sephirot being the key through the tree of knowledge? That was unexpected.
What makes this particularly interesting is
-Mottom has always been one of the ones taking the prophecy of the rising king killing the Beast seriously, including trying to wiggle out of being one of the beast’s heads
-Mottom was on a screaming rampage of revenge against Allison that resulted in her getting into a war with Mammon
I love the exploration in this story of personal limitations, and those points in time that precipitate the characters’ ability (or lack thereof) to ride the knife’s edge of a moment and consciously choose something beyond their own personal inertia, beyond their status quo.
Mottom here is rising above herself, reaching for something better.
A wise man once said the young are all liberal for they think with their heart, and the old are all conservative for they think with their brain.
While that may or may not be relevant, I find it humorous myself, because we have seen Mottom remembering her royalty during this fight, and recapturing her youth, and in this page, her youthful idealism.
Perhaps next month we shall see the other demiurges all grasp the spear, realizing they have but once chance to strike with seven keys against one.
The old only think they are wise. When they were young, they were sure they knew better than their elders. When old, what passes for conservative thought is too often merely grasping after vanished youth, the once-familiar, comforting, and long gone. Pity those who seek to cloak themselves in authority under the appellation of wise elder! They fear irrelevance and dread to cede the stage. So it goes.
There are those who through diligent practice keep a flexible mind while dismissing no lesson learnt and it’s worth looking up to those few who have used their years well… But I suppose none of them sought out the title of “wise elder” because they realize how foolish they really are, it is a cloak others put on them often without their permission because to the group less foolish is good enough, or is it foolish to think so?
So what you’re saying is, you think you know better than the old?
I need not say any more, I’m sure you will see the error of your way eventually.
As an ancient remnant of past glory, this ancient shell is certain of few verities; among them, that one does not know everything, and that those who crown themselves with prideful certainty are more to be pitied than scorned.
Then why do you think you have attained wisdom through age and experience, enough to recognize your own lack of knowledge, and yet assume that others have not?
You claim with one hand that none are wise, all are ignorant, and none know it, and yet with the other hand clenched tightly in a fist defend yourself that you indeed have knowledge of this, and that you have learned your errors.
Why do you give yourself that nuance and deny it from others?
Every old person I know personally in my life knows more about subjects than I would know in a lifetime, why should I assume they have no experience or wisdom from age and experience?
You show a curious dichotomy in your mind. Are you not aware that all men are as infinitely nuanced as yourself? We are all the center of a storm of thought and story and personal circumstance, it would be naive to say only ourselves can gain wisdom from experience.
Anyone who has been around long enough, and has eyes to see, realizes that not everyone gains knowledge at the same pace, nor gains wisdom at the same pace.
Ergo, at least some of the more aged members of any population are not going to be as wise as their years might suggest.
Broadly speaking, it is also often the case that the prideful are simply those who have not yet learned the harder lessons of humility. Which, I think, was more the core point of 32 Red Right Hand’s interjection above.
O Wearegrid, pray be not so eager to mistake the meaning of the lesson. Not all are fools; not all are wise. Nor is every passing thought an attack upon one’s self. Meditate upon this, and be at peace.
A wiser man might say, that the young are liberal because they see the inequality and injustice of the world they are born into, and the old are conservative because they are finally the ones on top.
It turns out the real cubits were the friends we made along the way.
*looks around at everyone and nods*
*everyone stands and starts clapping*
*several people whistle and point while cheering at you*
*Steers the applauding onlookers to grab a bit of spear* More cubits. MORE!
“Congratulations” “Congratulations” “Congratulations” “Congratulations” etc.
friends, enemies
there’s less difference than you think
“The Lord of the world cannot rule! He cannot grasp anything but a hilt!”
Sounds like it’s Auntie Maya’s time to shine.
Consider: the undefeated swordsman must be exceptionally poor.
Indeed. And Jagganoth has LONG been undefeated.
The Seven Swabians
I did not expect such an all sided grasp at the title of MVP.
Nadia understands the truth of the old worlds
“Fair fights are for fools and dead men.”
Muture strength, once again expanded. Magnificent!
So, out of the three, whose arms have been the useless bunch just flailing around behind Aspect?
Like Naruto?
A necessary boost to speed, to survive the Red God’s wrath.
Truly, the most useful arms of all.
They’re insectile-ish, so Cio’s would be my guess. But she seems to use them as a counter-balance, and definitely helped make the island float!
They look a whole lot Yabachoath’s arms except for the color, so I’d have to guess they’re Cio’s. The hooves too.
Mu.
The question is flawed.
All six of The Fool’s arms belong to her selves equally.
And this year’s first nomination for the best use of the word “moron” is …
“Fate is not a cage except for those who fear it” very cool of Allison/Chaos to quote Zoss from back in Mottom’s palace (Wielder of Names 5-95, when coincidentally Allison also had a cubit spear pointed at a demiurge)
Oooh, nice catch!
“DON’T YOU SEE? THE POWER OF RED CANNOT DEFEAT THE WHOLE RAINBOW”
“THAT’S A HORRIBLE YET LITERAL METAPHOR”
with all this I have a wonder, what is the timescale of this fight? like, I know they’re on a rock up above what was ?rayuba? I think, but are they gonna come down and find eons have slipped by and the worlds have moved on while the gods bickered amongst themselves, or is it like 5e combat and is barely 10 minutes
Ten minutes? There’ve been, like, three rounds. We aren’t even near ONE minutes.
And a whole lot of talking in those three rounds.
Fortunately, speaking is a free action.
Four months to author, three and a half minutes to read, and only a minute has passed in Rayuba. Comic artists work hard yo!
Knife upon the table, Connor in the book,
band around the head in the photo that you took.
I haven’t hurt a soul, I can tell from a quick look.
The greatest word Ysil ever spoke, and it was just one, was.
“What if”.
Interesting note: One of the most famoud responses ever given to a threat in ancient times, was used by Sparta. When another kingdom said “If we come to your lands, we will destroy your armies, level your cities, kill all your men, and enslave your women” The response from Sparta was a letter with a single word. “If”
The other kingdom never came.
Philip and Alexander had their eyes on other prizes.
Sparta tried to take Crete during Alexander’s reign and were defeated. They were subsequently forced to join the League of Corinth.
And then came Rome, and Sparta never recovered.
They were exceptionally skilled warriors, and it turns out that’s not enough to save yourself.
Yep! Almost like the moral here has real world relevance! Of course it’s a bit more complicated than that, it always is, but the principle stays true.
The Spartans were brave, warlike, and confident.
“Skilled” might be a stretch. Compared to other professional hoplites, their performance is about average on the battlefield, and their cultural values severely limited their grasp of grand strategy.
Plus, they were literally the slaving warlords who gave “Tyrants” a bad name, so…
Yeah whoda thunkit that some asshole bashing all the dicks off the Hermes in Athens would lead to the fall of Sparta as a major power?
Alcibiades died at 50 ambushed by enough ninjas they could throw spears at him til he died, and I know, it’s like death taking him while he was sleeping. They couldn’t have won a fair fight 😛
This is known.
A greatt tale tho.
Nihil novum sub sole is still mine favorite.
Royalty is in fact the friends we made along the way.
And Inky.
ah don’t diss Incubus, he just wants to bring out the best in us! why, he even invited me to join him at Lethyx, I can’t wait to see what he has in store…
Incubus party at Lethyx! BYOBG!
(Bring Your Own Blood Grail)
Jaggs still can’t decide if his scheme of killing everyone in the multiverse is justified because he believes it’s for the greater good or because no one’s strong enough to stop him, I see. Maybe he’ll choke on his hypocrisy before the spear hits. . .
Nah but I’m loving this. It’s nice to see Nadia step up, she’s probably fighting her fear of death more than anything else right now, and given Jaggy’s talk she can’t be entirely sure if letting him win might create a world without death. And Alison being a terrible conquering king who relies on other people is always great.
His thing is that violence is usually the answer. Stuck in a time loop? KILL TIME RARR
He pretty frankly wants the others to realize this and become their own avatars of pure violence, and is annoyed when they cling to anything other than pure, unadulterated DPS.
It is an axiom that I live by that no raid leader who plays DPS is to be trusted. The only great leaders are tanks and healers.
As an off-tank/second DPS, but never the leader, I take offence to this, I think 😛
Praise the Ash, what was once many shall briefly become The Indivisible I!
About time the freaking demiurges got with the program. The bottom text has me worried, though.
Does this Tesla spear have anything to do with the remains of the binding previously talked about?
Thee cubit spear with its increasingly numerical complexity will, assumedly, make a connection soon.
Literally.
At last! A demiurge realizes the folly of the strength of solitude!
Apes together strong.
I’m surprised Om of all the six would be the first to offer her support. She’s so spiteful all the time and pretty much the only one with a legitimate reason to hate Allison.
Why has Mottom got any better reason to hate Allison than Mammon does? She effective destroyed both of their homes.
Well, Allison also destroyed her tree of fruits of immortality.
And from what I remember, Mottom was the one who destroyed Mammon’s home. She was the one with an invading army.
This has given Mottom good reason to be evolving recently. She might just be in the right frame of mind to make a leap beyond herself.
I think the reason for Mottom’s support is simple. Of all the Demiurges, she is the weakest. Yes, even weaker than Incubus.
She knows this, all of the other Demiurge’s know this. She has the least protection of all of them, and has been one of the few Demiurge’s to engage in this fight all-out from the beginning. She and Mammon, the two weakest of the seven and those two with the most contention between them have been a bickering team in this field nearly since the fight started.
Mottom knows her only chance at survival lies in siding with The Fool. They all do to an extent, but Mottom in particular knows it deep down in her soul. To the point where even when she was at her most contrary, the Crone spoke respect to The Fool.
If you look closely, there is an inverse of power to effort on all the Demiurges. Thosee fighting the hardest are the weakest or have the most to lose, while the strongest of them had to be persuaded to even join the battle and honor the Pact.
Perhaps the ultimate weapon, in face of the sword art. Reconciliation. A binding action, instead of a cutting one. An equal and opposite to the terrible Sword of Want.
While it’s true that Gog needed to be cajoled into joining the battle, Solomon did not need any urging and he’s certainly one of the strongest. In fact, wasn’t Solomon warning about Jagger as far back as when he broke the table with his one finger attack?
Solomon was willing to fight, but unwilling to commit for fear of damage to Rayuba.It was only after The Fool carried the battlefield away from the world that he was able to fully commit. Before that he had to hold back on every blow.
Rayuba is Solomon David’s Achilles heel. He will never, ever fully commit to a battle where it would be in danger. His love for it is too great.
That’s well thought out.
THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP